• FaeDrifter
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    I’m not even a liberal, but y’all are so chronically online and accustomed to being in a little echo chamber you can’t talk to anyone rationally.

    I’ve never met a trans person IRL who needs me to remember 4 pronouns, or needs pronouns like “Fae”, but say something on Hexbear and you’re instantly transphobic liberal Hitler.

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        So silly, I live in an exceedingly queer part of a city and work in a business that is all queer people, so about 1/5 of everyone I work with is trans.

        As far as I can tell, neopronouns are entirely a basement dweller thing.

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          As far as I can tell, neopronouns are entirely a basement dweller thing.

          This tells more about you than about the people you interact with. A person I worked with was telling me and a trans ally he never heard someone complain about what pronouns he uses (in a meeting in which we spoke out against a transphobic suggestion he made). He was quite sure of himself and didn’t want to hear what we said. Even after we did make that semi public he stood his position, which is funny since my ally did actually demand in public to be recognized with the correct terms and name.

          People didn’t feel save around him. In my environment trans people and plenty of others are giving you pronouns, but then again I am not outside the scene, am I?

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            neopronouns are entirely a basement dweller thing

            I guarantee the chud that said this likes to call people NEETS while either projecting from a basement or smugly sits comfortably upon their parents’ boat dealership money and does chores sometimes to “earn” it.

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            I’m willing to consider that I’m wrong about this. But at some point it’s just an issue of practicality. How many neopronouns do you need to have memorized for work? How many neopronouns is reasonable?

            I find it very reasonable to remember male/female/nonbinary pronouns for everyone I work with.

            But if I had to remember a special neopronoun for every single individual, I wouldn’t be able to finish a work conversation. I would probably stop using pronouns altogether, and just use their name. At that point, what’s the point of pronouns?

            So I really want to know, how many neopronouns do you need to remember, and how many neopronouns do you think you’re reasonably capable of remembering?

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            I love you but please turn off your phone or give me a dall. I cannot support hate. Please stop this. I know this isn’t your heart

            I wish I never knew this reference yea

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      columbo So you say trans rights are a liberal value right? Ah yes of course, that checks out.

      I’ll be going now. Actually, just one more thing, it’s probably nothing - didn’t you just say you don’t consider yourself a liberal?

      thinking-about-it

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        I have many liberal values but I don’t identify as a liberal.

        Liberalism had its place in pushing the envelope of progressivism for a while, but it’s not good enough.

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            I believe in egalitarianism, and personal liberty, to the extend that it does not override egalitarianism.

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              Oh for fuck sakes , that’s what liberalism defines itself as.

              Again, you don’t even understand your liberalism, nor why it blends so well with your fascistic tendencies we all know you have.

              There’s a simple explanation why liberals like you emit Hitler particles at such rate.

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                that’s what liberalism defines itself as.

                noo liberalism is when karl marx forces videogames to have age of consent in them :(

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                Liberalism puts personal liberty above egalitarianism.

                Y’all making the enormous leap from “neopronouns are very silly” right to “fascist” is mentally unhinged. You must really hide in your echo chamber thinking 99% of the world is fascist.

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          Well you’re obviously not a socialist, and you’re not a liberal, so that means you’re either a libertarian/conservative or some secret fourth thing, so please enlighten me, what are you?

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            I believe in egalitarianism, and personal liberty, to the extend that it does not override egalitarianism.

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              Those are vague term to obvuscate what you are, I also believe in egalitarianism and personal liberty to the extent that it does not override egalitarianism, are you also a communist just like all of us here?

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                personal liberty, to the extend that it does not override

                Fae is a right libertarian. This is classic “NAP but I want to sound progressive, not conservative”. The embarrassed propertarians that realise their politics are repugnant. No pronouns, no regulations like age of consent.

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                  oh we know we are talking to a right wing libertarian, aka an american liberal (red party)

                  its just so funny to see them lose their minds at being called what they are

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                I’m a huge slut for Karl Marx and Marxism.

                I wouldn’t call myself a communist, because so far attempts at communism haven’t been… like actual communism. I don’t support the CCP or Russia, or believe they come close to being communist.

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              I believe in egalitarianism, and personal liberty, to the extend that it does not override egalitarianism.

              Shut the fuck up you sophistry-slinging cryptofascist coward.

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                You don’t even know the worst of it, I think neopronouns are silly. I’m a hitler particle emitting fascist that’s going to start genocide any day now, no cap.

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          it’s not good enough.

          Correct. Liberals have a tendency of equivocating the issue of human rights. Like you enjoy doing.

          Please tell me you think the homeless are the real landlords so that we get the full triad of American Liberalism out of you.

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            I would 100% agree that America fundamentally invented fascism.