• FaeDrifter
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    9 months ago

    Are we just going to ignore the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, wherein Stalin let Hitler invade Poland as long as he got half of Poland, Lithuania, and Estonia?

    You know what the US never did? Call Hilter and agree to a joint imperialist effort in carving up sovereign nations.

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    “there is one common element in the ideology of Germany, Italy, and the Soviet Union: opposition to the capitalist democracies” or that “it seems to us rather unnatural that a socialist state would stand on the side of the western democracies”.

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Pariahs_Partners_Predators/ZliWXGydrzAC?hl=en&gbpv=0

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        9 months ago

        The video made by a social media influencer, streamer, and entertainer, not a historian? That video?

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          No he’s a historian, all of their videos are extremely well researched and he’s gone on record to clarify multiple times that he is not a socialist. There was even a video where they complained that their work could only get reach if they framed it as entertainment, making it very clear the only reason he does these videos is because they get a lot of reach and make him a lot of money.

          You just don’t want to watch the video because it showcases how fundamentally evil your underlying views are and you’re not ready to accept that maybe you’re a lot more pro-nazi than the western media and education has programmed you into thinking.

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              You think I give a fuck? Liberals will always just dismiss anything with “source??” if they disagree with it, but accept nazi lies wholesale.

              For example whenever Ukraine, Russia, China, or North Korea come up, people just believe everything they hear unquestioningly even when they’re saying shit like “NK believes that unicorns are real”

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                9 months ago

                Fuck Nazi’s, and fuck people who cooperate with Nazi’s, like the USSR.

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                  9 months ago

                  Who was responsible for the fall of the nazis. Who killed hilter. Say it with me. Stalin. Sta-lin.

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                    9 months ago

                    Also is someone who thinks that Stalin killed Hilter really qualified to know if a youtube entertainer is a historian.

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                    Only because fascists inevitably eat each other. Nazi fascists and red fascists worked together until one turned on the other.

                    Say what you want about the US, but they could go right to the Nazi beating without having to cooperate with them first.

                    And Stalin literally did not kill Hitler. Hitler killed Hitler, in true fascist self-imploding fashion.

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      Are we just going to ignore the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, wherein Stalin let Hitler invade Poland as long as he got half of Poland, Lithuania, and Estonia?

      Only after France and England refused a defensive pact against the Nazis, and had already given the Nazis a bunch of territory and industry needed.

      Also, would you have preferred that the nazis got all of Poland, Estonia, and Lithuania in the initial invasion? Because that would have led to a lot more deaths in those occupied territories, and might have resulted in the nazis beating the soviet union in 1942, which would have basically meant that the Nazis would have won ww2.

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        Why do you think Germany pursued a defensive pact with the USSR?

        Because without the pact, Germany likely wouldn’t have been able to expand at all.

        If anything, the USSR’s pact with Nazi Germany have Hitler a head start that made WW2 drag out so much longer than necessary.