• LilB0kChoy
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    5 months ago

    Splitting hairs about how you projected emotion as a dismissive tactic is also a dismissive tactic.

    I didn’t project emotion, I interpreted your comment as angry due to your phrasing and use of profanity. I interpreted the second comment the same way due, again, to your phrasing and use of hypocrite.

    I’m sorry if I was wrong but you seem very combative to me.

    I disagree with your stance on the issue at hand.

    You accuse me of bullying you and being emotional abusive? I disagree with that as well but if that’s truly how you feel please report any and all comments I made you feel that way about. If the mods review them and feel the same as you then they’ll be removed.

    your comment treats the company as totally blameless

    Sure, I think Apple has no blame for one child bullying another, I think blame for that is on the child doing the bullying and on the child’s parents.

    I think it’s lazy and irresponsible to blame Apple for an issue that exists without them and before them. Especially when there’s things they are both directly responsible for and that have a greater direct impact.

    Text bubbles are what kids chose to focus on for their bullying, I’m sure Apple benefits from it, but those same kids would bully about something else if that was gone. This is a people problem, I’d argue American people, that doesn’t change if green text bubbles were gone tomorrow.

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      5 months ago

      you seem very combative to me.

      Could it be because of things you said?

      Like repeating the insults lazy and irresponsible, based on the binary all-or-nothing blame I just addressed, quoting the previous time you used those insults?

      Your ardent insistence on individual responsibility doesn’t seem to extend to why someone would respond to your comments like you’ve repeatedly insulted them. Surely there’s no reason for someone to call you a hypocrite. They must be angry, in a way you’ll voice as an accusation, for no apparent reason.

      Meanwhile.

      Back at the point:

      Apple turning the universal standard of text messages into a color-coded sign of smug superiority - see previous thirty years of their marketing - is at least partly to blame for the trend of children acting smugly superior based on that brand loyalty. Do you understand “partly to blame,” as a concept?

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          5 months ago

          “Here is why you are objectively wrong about a company’s role in this systemic issue.”

          “Why are you so angry? You juuust disagree, because you’re lazy and stupid and irresponsible. Cheers!”

          Fuck you.

          • LilB0kChoy
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            5 months ago

            I never called you lazy or stupid. I called blaming a company for a social issue lazy and irresponsible.

            I don’t know why you’re taking this personally, I don’t know you, I certainly can’t make a judgment about you as a person.

            I disagree with the take that Apple is to blame and shared my thoughts on that, not you.

            When I got an iPhone years ago it had a function I didn’t know about. Different text bubble colors depending on protocol used. It was all awesome because I had limited texting so it was handy to know if messaging was free (iMessage) or if it was counting against my limit (SMS).

            Nobody bullied anybody over it then. You want to blame Apple, partly, for kids getting bullied, ok. I disagree with you and I think blaming Apple is lazy and irresponsible. You as a person? No idea. You might be industrious and diligent, maybe you’re somewhere in the middle, maybe you are lazy and irresponsible. That’s not really for me to judge from one opinion shared on the internet.

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              5 months ago

              I don’t know why you’re taking this personally, I don’t know you, I certainly can’t make a judgment about you as a person.

              Do you read your own comments? You keep doing exactly that.

              I disagree with you and I think blaming Apple is lazy and irresponsible. You as a person? No idea.

              Do you speak English?