I know that he’s anti-imperialist and that people say critical support. But my question is what does he do? Not saying anything good or bad about him, I’m just saying from the libs I hear he’s bad and a dictator and he’s evil, people who are decently far left say “he’s far from perfect but worthy of critical support” and I can’t criticize or praise his actions as I know nothing of his policies or history and lord knows looking it up doesn’t help these days

  • @ledward@lemmygrad.ml
    11•2 years ago

    Good point.

    What countries would be state capitalist in the socialist sense though? Many call China state capitalist, but from a socialist perspective, it isn’t.

    • Muad'Dibber
      13•2 years ago

      State capitalist is kind of a meaningless term, what matters is which class holds control over the political and economic system.

      So some of the nordic states might have a comparatively high degree of state ownership and employment (compared to other capitalist states

      ), while still having a capital stand above the politics and economy.

      Whereas in China, Cuba, Vietnam, the communist party stands above the economy and directs it via X-year plans.

      Lenin’s quote on the distinction is good, and probably the main reason we should ditch the term altogether.

      The state capitalism, which is one of the principal aspects of the New Economic Policy, is, under Soviet power, a form of capitalism that is deliberately permitted and restricted by the working class. Our state capitalism differs essentially from the state capitalism in countries that have bourgeois governments in that the state with us is represented not by the bourgeoisie, but by the proletariat, who has succeeded in winning the full confidence of the peasantry.

    • MexicanCCPBot
      4•2 years ago

      Hm? I thought they qualified exactly as that, state capitalist in the Leninist sense (compare to NEP)

      • @ledward@lemmygrad.ml
        4•2 years ago

        Right, I figured it was so, that would make sense. “State capitalist” is an odd term to me, so I never use it, but it can fit.

        • @ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.mlOP
          2•2 years ago

          Yea I don’t like saying State Capitalist because righties think that I’m being hypocritical and US left think that it means something else entirely