• archomrade [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        “Nothing else exists outside this vote right now”

        Jesus, read a history book or something

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          3 months ago

          That’s the entirety of what we’re discussing. Biden or Trump. Binary choice. You’re getting one of em.

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            3 months ago

            Sure, but what each of those candidates does is flexible, and one of those candidates can fulfill some action in that role right now.

            And since that candidate needs our votes, we have some degree of bargaining power over what that candidate chooses to do right now and for the next 7 months.

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              3 months ago

              Do you?

              If Biden doesn’t stop helping Israel, you’ll help the other guy get elected? What kind of bargain is that?

              You’re playing with fire by threatening that. It’s a terrible, terrible gamble. If you lose, countless more people will die. Are you okay having that on your conscience?

              This is the world’s biggest trolley problem, and you’re advocating for “don’t pull the lever even though more people will die”

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                3 months ago

                If Biden doesn’t stop funding Israel in the next 7 months, i’ll make that choice.

                But making that choice now when I don’t have to isn’t just dumb, it’s complicity.

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                  3 months ago

                  You’re making that choice right now. If you stand on a hill with a megaphone shouting “GENOCIDE JOE GENOCIDE JOE!” for 8 months and then at the 11th hour decide to go “eh okay I’ll vote for him”, it’s too late.