• seahorse [Ohio]OPMA
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    323 days ago

    Why don’t we just start [redacted] the government? Or work on getting a third option right now?

    • @Telorand@reddthat.com
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      -123 days ago

      Because it’s too late. What do you think you can achieve in seven months? You’d have to unite leftist Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z and convince them that your plan (third party voting or “industrial action”) is better than the relatively safe option of simply going out and voting for Biden.

      And not only that, but thanks to FPTP, convincing people to join you also means convincing people that it won’t throw the election to Trump, whose party reliably turns out to vote for more Republicans.

      Unless you know something I don’t, we’re about four years too late to build the momentum needed to make dramatic changes.

      • seahorse [Ohio]OPMA
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        323 days ago

        You know you can make change outside the official channels, right?

        • @Telorand@reddthat.com
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          -223 days ago

          Such as? Do you mean revolt? If that’s what you mean, just say it: you want a revolution. I don’t know why you’re being coy about it.

          But my core point is that you still have to convince everybody else that revolution or civil disobedience are worth losing their security and privilege. You can’t do this alone, and 100,000 people online who share your ideals aren’t anywhere near the same as feet on the ground.

          • seahorse [Ohio]OPMA
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            023 days ago

            Lol, I’m not trying to get arrested right now.

            There is plenty of direct action people can take besides a violent revolution to improve their and others circumstances