I really hope this is a complete failure, like Meta itself.

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    I’m expecting FB to make some sort of proprietary fork of ActivityPub. I’m not quite sure what the point of Threads is, from Zuck’s POV, excluding the desire to eat Musks’s lunch, which is huge, so that’s more than enough. The man needs a win, bad, after that Metaverse flop heard round the world.

    But everything you’d consider an advantage to the Fediverse is a downside to his business model, and the things it enables, like user-controlled hosting, don’t suit his ends. Maybe he intends to colonize this place, too, but up until very recently there wasn’t a meaningful user base to gain control over. Still isn’t. Mastodon got the biggest boost, they’re up to 8 mil users now, a healthy number for sure, but Instagram is pushing a billion users, so the number isn’t much to him.

    So he’s not going to actually like anything about the Fediverse, or what it offers, nor will he like its downsides much. ActivityPub, as it is, doesn’t do him any favors. I can’t imagine anything other than the skeleton of ActivityPub getting repurposed into something else that runs Threads in the locked down way that Meta is accustomed to. He just seems to be grabbing at anything that’s loose for the taking.

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      I’m expecting FB to make some sort of proprietary fork of ActivityPub.

      ActivityPub is based on a W3C standard. I found this license here, but I’m not sure if there is any protections against re-privatization.

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        I have the barest grasp on what “proprietary fork” actually means. All I know is that Meta is probably here because everyone is bailing to Mastodon, especially journalists. Fuckin Fox News threw up an outpost, they’re all there, the userbase is ramping up past 8mil. Meta sees that, and wants a piece of Musk’s market. The question is how, exactly, they are going to make the model become something they control properly, or worse, they manage to engulf the whole thing and somehow this all becomes facebook against everyone’s will. Hopefully they make their own walled garden out of it and we can all stay safely outside the cursed thing, being dweeby and free.

        I don’t have the background to judge the situation, and I don’t like it. Somehow I went as far away from facebook as I could and ended up back on facebook, gimme a fuckin break

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          All I know is that Meta is probably here because everyone is bailing to Mastodon, especially journalists.

          I wouldn’t exactly say that everybody is bailing on Mastodon. I don’t like the Twitter format, but a lot of people prefer that over a threaded set up like Reddit/Lemmy/Threads. Right now, the only other option is Twitter, and Musk is actively burning that to the ground.

          I just wish Mastodon would stop catering to mobile people and give me browser width space that’s not the size of a large potato.

          Fuckin Fox News threw up an outpost, they’re all there, the userbase is ramping up past 8mil.

          Right-wing assholes gonna asshole their way into the platform with the most corporate influence, while still pretending they are “rebelling” and “sticking it to the man”. Fox News are the Kings of Astroturfing. Not surprising at all.