Let’s say the internet gets so bad that it becomes almost impossible to carry on a civilized conversation on a social network or to avoid a flood of anonymous emails. The people become fed up and can’t take it anymore. A revolution takes place and a miracle happens: every one is required to get a real id that can be traced back an actual person. This id is then required to do anything on the internet.

How many people are going to still post death threats, character assassinations, or make racist or sexist comments. How many people are are going to email you saying they’re a Nigerian prince that wants to give you money. It would sure go a long way to cleaning up some of the cesspools that make up social networking and the garbage pit that is email today.

Knowing who you are cuts both ways. A woman trying to hide from an abusive boyfriend or husband would want to keep her identity unknown. People facing political persecution would like to keep a low profile.

Perhaps the biggest hurdle to setting up ids would be verification. How do you prove someone is who they say they are when documents can be easily forged and fake identities created. You could use finger prints or eye scans, but the effort to set up the infrastructure to do so would be massive.

Then there is the issue of maintaining the information in a safe and secure manner. We couldn’t rely on any countries government. They wouldn’t be able to resist the temptation to use it to track people. It would have to be an independent agency.

Is setting up such a system unfeasible? Even if all the hurdles could be overcome and a real id system could be created, is that something we would want? Are we better off with the way it is today and just live with its ills or relying on mods and spam filters to keep thing somewhat under control.

I’m aware that Web 3.0 is making strides in this area. It remains to be seen if it will be viable.

  • NaN@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Plenty of people are terrible using their real Facebook or Twitter accounts. L

    I think this would be difficult in the US. The US doesn’t have a national id except for the passport, which probably a majority of people do not have. There is a strong cultural resistance to a national id, I expect this would translate over to the internet very strongly, so any centralized verification system would be unpopular from the beginning.

    • carbotect@vlemmy.net
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Doesn’t every American have a social security number? That’s basically a national ID, just without any security features tho.

      • NaN@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        It is also still somewhat controversial, among a small subset of people.

        It is an identifier but not identification. Nobody will accept it if proof of who you are without other documentation backing it up. A passport or drivers license generally does not have that sort of limitation (the physical card is most often presented for employment to verify legal work status, but not who you are).

        • carbotect@vlemmy.net
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          American drivers licenses are basically just EU style ID cards. For new licenses you even need biometric data. State IDs and the “Passport Card” are (somewhat obscure) alternatives.

          Europeans only need to apply for ID cards at around the age, were the average American gets their driver’s license.

          A young American adult is probably almost just as identifiable by their government, as a young European adult would be by theirs.

          Seeing regulations like the REAL ID act, I would say that America is headed towards more identification, rather than less.