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    8 months ago

    Even taken in good faith, what value is a university supposed to get out of a lecture from some loser kid who’s only accolades come from a controversial trial?

    What could he possibly have to say of any significance or importance?

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      This is my take.

      Why can’t I speak? I’m significantly more qualified than a dipshit kid who carried a rifle to a protest and killed people.

      Accomplishments:

      • Never murdered anybody
      • I collected all 151 pokemon legally on the original Pokemon red.
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        I collected all 151 pokemon legally on the original Pokemon red

        If you’re American, then I’m calling bullshit, unless you were living in Japan at the time. Mew was not catchable in the original red and blue, and the only way to get it legitimately was to attend certain Japan-only Nintendo events, where a Nintendo official added it to your cartridge.

        Here in the states, the only ways to get Mew at the time were GameSharks or trade, but unless you traded with someone who could get to Japan and was willing to give up their event exclusive Mew, it was probably just from somebody else he used a GameShark.

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        8 months ago

        Your qualifications are quite impressive, can you tell me more about the potato’s and why I shouldn’t befriend them?

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          In a sane world he would have perhaps participated in the BLM protests because his education wasn’t full of right wing religious propaganda.

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            Wow, sounds like he shouldn’t have been there at all! What monster forcibly brought this 17 year old kid into that situation?

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              He probably shouldn’t have bought the gun, but saying something is someone’s fault because they “shouldn’t have been” somewhere they have a legal right to be is cringe.

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                I have a legal right to go swimming in shark infested waters.

                Probably not a great idea though, right?

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                  Right, but you wouldn’t be put on trial for endangering the sharks lol

                  Look, there are good arguments to be made of Rittenhouse’s guilt, you’re just not making them.

                  Part of me feels like the standard neoliberal talking points on the matter were engineered by conservatives to reduce the credibility of their conclusion.

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      Someone on the right wing set it up, likely. They do this all the time, since the Universities act like they have to take all commers in the name of free speech. The right wing is hoping the controversial speaker will draw a hostile crowd and spark an incident. In my day, they even got caught using their own thugs posing as students to kick off violence.

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      Not the university, a student club. Students have first amendment rights here.

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        Clubs need to get permission from the University to invite people onto campus grounds and speak at campus facilities. Someone who actually works for and represents the facility had to sign off on that little fascist coming to speak.

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            But it’s not even about him being controversial – just pointless. What educational value does a boring, loser kid have to offer?

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              Public discourse is an educational experience. Universities aren’t there to just teach you mathematics and basket weaving, it’s there to challenge your viewpoint and make you question your assumptions. That comes from being exposed to differing, even extreme, viewpoints.

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                  You don’t like Kyle Rittenhouse. I don’t like Kyle Rittenhouse. He’s a horrible human being and a terrible role model.

                  This falls under the “I will fight to the death for your right to speak” philosophy.

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                    Again, not challenging his right to speak. Challenging the value of what he has to say.

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          No, you cannot block that. Public universities are a first amendment forum which means that all viewpoints are allowed.

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        I’m not asking whether or not he had a right to speak there.

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          Nobody said that he has a right to speak there. The students have a right to invite him to speak there.

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                  It means that you don’t want to converse, you just want to be angry. It was a mistake of me to attempt it with you.

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                    Go back and reread this conversation. Nothing you’ve said has been relevant. There was never a question about him being allowed to speak it was about whether there was value to him speaking.

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                    Not sure how making irrelevant statements constitutes conversation, or how wondering how they’re relevant means I’m angry, but okay, bud. Run along.