WASHINGTON (AP) — Top American and Israeli officials held virtual talks Monday as the U.S. pushed alternatives to the ground assault against Hamas under consideration by Israelis in the southern Gaza city of Rafah, a move the U.S. opposes on humanitarian grounds and that has frayed relations between the two allies.
President Joe Biden and his administration have publicly and privately urged Israel for months to refrain from a large-scale incursion into Rafah without a credible plan to relocate and safeguard noncombatants. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has insisted that Israel I forces, which are trying to eradicate Hamas after the Oct. 7 attack on Israel, must be able to enter the city to root out the group’s remaining battalions.
The more than two-and-a-half-hour meeting by secure video conference was described by both sides as constructive and productive, as Washington encourages the Israelis to avoid an all-out assault on the city, where an estimated four battalions of Hamas fighters are dispersed among more than 1.3 million civilians. The White House has instead pushed Israel to take more targeted actions to kill or capture Hamas leaders while limiting civilian impacts.
The potential operation in the city has exposed one of the deepest rifts between Israel and its closest ally, funder and arms supplier. The U.S. has already openly said Israel must do more to allow food and other goods through its blockade of Gaza to avert famine.
Biden has already pledged full unconditional support to Israel, I don’t know why they’re even talking. Israel can (and probably will) just ignore the advise and go in for the kill.
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Yes sovereign countries do usually make their own decisions based on their own interests. This has been my TED talk.
And that interest is genocide. No apartheid states deserve to exist.
Why is it only Jews are expected to give non citizens the rights of citizens? Canadians don’t vote in America, either, and they don’t even have criminals in charge of the place.
Further, Apartheid is a system of oppression of the majority by the minority. It is a system that treats a certain majority class of citizens as unequal under the law.
When the majority votes for oppressive policies, it’s just called oppression, and it’s shitty but not a war crime. Why do you try and label it as a war crime only when Jews do it?
Do you not see a difference between policy with popular support and consent of the governed versus one without? Kinda the whole thing there with democracy: majority rules? I know as a Hamas supporter these are blasphemous concepts to you.
Hey, Palestinians could stop supporting terrorists and committing their own war crimes, maybe they they would have more favorable status under Israeli law. Still delusional to call it “apartheid.”
Israel was founded on Settler Colonialism and ethnic cleansing, both fundamental to Zionism. Stop being antisemitic and conflating all Jewish people with Israel.
Three main international treaties prohibit and/or explicitly criminalize apartheid: the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD), the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid (Apartheid Convention) and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (Rome Statute).
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948 culminating to Plan Dalet in 1948, more details here.
You can learn more in the Apartheid Reports
Amnesty International Report
Human Rights Watch Report
B’TSelem Report with quick Explainer
At it again with irrelevant links. Wow three treaties prohibit apartheid? Great, it should be prohibited. Minority rule over the majority is disgusting. Israel doesn’t have apartheid by the literal definition of the word. You’re twisting the word to apply it to Israel, and only to Israel, because you are an anti semite.
Terrorists don’t get to have a country. Stop whitewashing the history.
Ah yes, @JustZ@lemmy.world, any link that crushes every one of your points is irrelevant.
Every one of them begins with flagrant twisting of facts to suit the conclusion they want to reach.
They gloss over the distinguishing feature of apartheid, which is minority control of the majority. Period. If it doesn’t have that, it’s not apartheid. I realize that there are people who nevertheless call Israel apartheid. That’s called anti semitism.
Except it’s not a distinguishing feature. All these fine people have tried to show you evidence from experts on apartheid.
The reason you don’t want to fix this mistake that you keep parrotting to everyone is that you’d have to come to terms with being a genocide supporter.
This whole “minority rule” that you have gotten so pedantic about in some kind of tunnel vision is an excuse. A really sad excuse.
South Africa’s apartheid was one example of minority rule over a majority. This is unique to South Africa and IS NOT some kind of defining feature of it. Apartheid is a racial segregation system that can come about in many ways. Israel has checked almost every box on the list: actual racial segragation, robbing Palestinians of their human rights even of they are citizens of Israel, literally building TWO separation walls, etc, etc.
Even South Africa itself clearly called Israel an apartheid state, but as a response we both recall how you claimed to know more about apartheid than South Africa. So even if all legal experts in the world disagreed with you, you would still not change your opinion.
Don’t you see the pattern of your thinking? I’m seriously asking.
Period.
See? We can both do this “period” shit. It doesn’t make us right.
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That statement is profoundly ignorant of history.
You mean like the Palestinians who are citizens of Israel but still dehumanized and treated like shit?
Please pop that goddamn fucking bubble already
@JustZ@lemmy.world what? No answer? Why? Because the fact that even Palestinian Israelis get treated like shit and it totally wrecks your flimsy point??
Let me make it easier for you to respond since alm your responses are predictable:
So simply answer with 1, 2, 3, or 4… Or all of the above?
It’s because we’ve been through this and my conclusion is that you’re too emotional and do not have the basic media literacy needed to have a productive conversation. My time is worth more.
You mean you took me being upset avout murder and genocide as “being emotional” so it can be another excuse for you to deny this genocide and call people’s reaction unjustified?
And by basic media literacy, you mean that I get my information from verified international sources instead of from that lawfare blog from which you have parroted every argument like a good blind little lawyer?
Yes, I’m a firey person, but at least I’m honest with myself.
But I will take that as a “No, I don’t know anything about Palestinian citizens of Israel… I just repeat crap I heard or read as long as it supports my worldview”
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Hmm, if only I didn’t know you’re a total troll who will jump from point to point.
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Yeah sure thing bro
PS: you remind me of Napoleon (the pig)
Acting like Genocidal Nazis doesn’t serve a countries own interests. This has been my Lemmy comment.
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