How is reddit post protest, did it really win over protesters? Did the ones who left make a dent? Or like all things before, did it ultimately do nothing?
I’m here now and not there. So I guess it at least did a little something 🙋♂️
Here and not there too. I saw my last post when Apollo got cut off.
It was difficult to figure out how this works at first and wait for the Memmy TestFlight, but now I’m happy.
Still looking for a RIF lemmy clone for android. Started with jeroba, on connect now. But nothing like rif yet.
It’s not perfect but I’m quite happy with wefwef.app
Thanks, will try it.
Here and not there too. I saw my last post when Apollo got cut off.
It was difficult to figure out how this works at first and wait for the Memmy TestFlight, but now I’m happy.
I checked it a few times on a web browser but only a handful. Pretty much done after apollo was killed while I was browsing. It was weird watching the app die in real time
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My dude, it’s ok to shill Lemmy/Fediverse. I’ve been doing it to people I know IRL that use R3dd!t.
I have stuff all idea how half of this works and how I’m doing it, I saw a post recommending liftoff and it’s been easy enough to blunder through. I’ve tried using the mobile web interface for Reddit and it’s like pulling teeth.
I haven’t used liftoff but Memmy is also quite nice!
So far the issue that I’ve been having with Memmy is that dictation doesn’t work properly: it will delete a dictated comment when you stop/finish dictation.  There’s a lot to like about it but until that’s fixed I’ll be using Mlem. 
I have been using Memmy too. It has been excellent.
Just started lemmy and Memmy today. It’s been a great experience so far. The learning curve isn’t nearly as large as has been reported
A big part of that smooth experience is all the progress that’s been made in the past month, on both Lemmy and Memmy.
The Memmy app only started out as a beta in TestFlight ~4 weeks ago, and was limited to 10k users. The developer has made a truly inhuman amount of progress in that time - he was (and still is) pushing updates more than once a day. It’s only been in the regular App Store for a few days now.
Additionally, the largest Lemmy instance (lemmy.world) was having stability issues with the massive influx of users. But just a few days ago they figured out what was causing the problems, and the latest version of Lemmy has those fixes.
Wow, when you put it like that, it really highlights how much work got put into this because the experience, especially for a brand new app, is very reminiscent of Apollo. They’ve done a great job so far. Obviously not near where Apollo was, but that was over 9 years of development. Memmy looking great* so far
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Liftoff is on android and Memmy is on IOS
Liftoff is Flutter and thus runs on everything.
Yep, happily testing out Liftoff on iOS. I still find myself using Memmy more often but it’s close. Pretty nice to have a bunch of options to explore developing at such a high rate.
Ahh, makes sense!
Both are on test flight (beta prerelease) for iOS. I can’t log in on Liftoff, so memmy is my current go-to.
I have been using liftoff also but it is very difficult to find new communities not on your instance or on lemmy.world through the app I couldn’t figure it out at first glance so I add them through a web browser and then can access them on the app
That’s what I am having to do too and thought I was just missing something, but that makes sense since everything is in flux and that might not be the greatest priority since the exodus is ongoing and stability/keeping up with updates is way more important.
I’ve been adding and blocking communities through the browser since I joined. None of the apps currently seem to be able to add or block communities from other instances flawlessly just yet. I am enjoying watching this whole work in progress that is Lemmy though.
Yeah it does seem the apps are currently limited in that regard, hopefully development pace will continue and we’ll be up to a point where we can do that in the next few weeks.
Once the apps are in a good state we can see how viable this will be long term.
Agreed, liftoff has been super smooth so far
Here and unfortunately there too. Because movie and tv series discussions don’t exist yet in here so i have to use reddit for that. But now i only use it for like 20 Minutes a day instead of 1-2 hours + now i block ads. So yeah it did something
Do you really need to? I could understand for like mental health or financial advice, but I don’t think like entertainment is that essential to keep using and participating on reddit. Which is the worst since participating is content creation that increases engagement from other users who then respond to the comment.
Anyways I recommend a reddit front end if you must like libreddit or teddit. And Stealth for Android which is an app that lets you use a teddit front end. No account and use of front ends for less data for Reddit to collect is the ideal way to go if lurking must be done.
I do really need sometimes. You know some movies/episodes hit so hard that impossible to not talk to others about it, but i have nobody irl that watch that type of stuff so i have to talk with internet strangers.
Also yeah for mental health too.
I miss imdb and rotten tomatoes having forums. It used to be nice when there were many different avenues for discussion wherever you went online.
I did a search for tv and movie forum so came across this place
https://www.avforums.com/forums/tv-show-forum.55/
So there are places to discuss out there. Just have to break the habit of the one stop shop we got used to which has proved to be very problematic with how it has led to growth of companies like Facebook going from a social media company until it becomes so entrenched and hard to quit their influence started expanding beyond the startup that began without ads and treated users well, and stated gobbling up competitors and getting into new sectors.
It all just seems like a simple social media, but it’s scary how that can quickly turn and next thing you know it’s another billion dollar corporation. Who knows how the growth people like us contributed to reddit will turn out. Might be we created another future Facebook type entity.
I still circle back because there’s still just way more discussion on Reddit. I’m still using RiF though, so I can’t post or vote
You might want to have a look at !moviesandtv@lemmy.film https://lemmy.film/c/moviesandtv
That’s just movie news. What i want is discussions. You know like there are subreddits like r/blackmirror and they post a ‘black mirror Season 6 ep 1 discussion.’ and everyone post there opinions after watching it
There’s this then: https://lemmy.world/c/blackmirror
A thread per episode
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using an URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !blackmirror@lemmy.world
Not much comments there, but that’s fine.
But I’ll have to wait a bit till fully depending on lemmy. For example now I’m watching Euphoria and there isn’t a lemmy community for that. Despite it being a popular series
It will come I guess, hopefully sooner than later. Have a good day!
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using an URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !moviesandtv@lemmy.film
Same here. The day boost went down I moved here. And so far, even though I miss some communities, the overall quality of the posts is much higher. I can’t wait for boost lemmy app to come out.
Replace Boost with BaconReader, and that was me except I saw rumblings of it before the API change and went ahead and made the move because fuck unfettered capitalism. Even if this doesn’t last, we tried and made a stand and can enjoy the results while it lasts.
No, it didn’t get crushed. The goal was never to move everyone off reddit, it is to trigger the death spiral by having the people who cared about and actively contributes to abandon reddit and being redditors.
If this trend continues, reddit will get Facebook’d as their algorithms will make contents there get louder and dumber and angrier than ever before and cause more people to leave.
Remember, reddit is cynicism and despair, and despair is the enemy of progress.
Saying that it’s over and the Reddit won is a bit naive. The majority of the subs that I used to frequent have come back online, but they are definitely still protesting. ProgrammerHumor is making new troll rules based on majority vote every week. Madlads made everyone a mod. Many subs are posting John Oliver or troll versions of their original purpose.
It’s not over. Will they succeed? Who knows. But Reddit is currently a completely different place than it was a month ago because of the ongoing protests.
As a digg refugee I can say that I am done with reddit, too much dejavu here.
Yup. I haven’t logged in since Boost went down and don’t intend to. Except when a link takes me there and auto-opens the app.
That said, while it’s fun and informative to talk about how bad Reddit has become, I hope Lemmy can move on soon and just start being something different rather than constantly being smug about Reddit.
I still have 12k+ comments made over 15 years I need to delete, then I’m gone
I thought the same as you until I checked and saw that /r/programming is back. That is a professional resource whose merits outweigh the ideological ramifications
It’s mostly blogspam and gpt generated “articles” and has been for years. Some of the language specific subs were good though.
I started spending more time at reddit slightly before the digg exodus, and yeah. The masses aren’t the ones to worry about, it’s the people that have been creating content and moderating it for the last 15 years. Reddit has no value past that, it’s just forum software (see also: digg.) Not sure how it’s going to shake out, but I know that I went viewing daily and commenting often to… nothing. The official app is not getting added to my phone, the mobile website is outright hostile, and it honestly just feels gross to launch the main website. I’d rather just search for gems on lemmy or kbin or mastodon and engage on that.
The madlads! (I’m sorry I had to)
The subs I have witnessed (although it is difficult because I did delete my account in protest of the API changes), are all full of Astroturf and Ads and are no longer usable.
It really really hope Lemmy takes off. For me, there’s enough here that I’m set. I look forward to the apps getting better and the platform getting more stable.
Agreed. Lemmy is very nearly active enough for me, so once the big apps like Sync start rolling in it defo will. Beyond that I don’t really care if Lemmy never gets as big as reddit.
If you’re still having issues with apps, try wefwef.app. I have no complaints since I started using it.
I’m actually on the TestFlight for Memmy and it’s getting much better very quickly.
But I was an Apollo addict and that is a very high bar.
Wefwef reversing the colors on upvotes and downvotes triggers me, and at least on iOS it has a pretty annoying WebKit related bug where it stops scrolling until you tap something.
Memmy is quite good though, the functionality is there and the polish will come!
I was using Mlem more but this latest update to Memmy really looks great, and afaik it’s the first of what I have to add the ability to hide posts (at least on iOS), which was an essential feature for me on Apollo. Now I just want to be able to change my browsing swipe controls to hide and save swiping right like I did on Apollo! Aesthetically it’s looking really good too. I like the Apollo-esque themes.
The main thing that got me on Memmy over wefwef is probably stupid, but it’s the haptic feedback on swiping to upvote.
It’s like a comfort blanket after Apollo was shut down
Only issue I’ve had with wefwef is that I can’t seem to subscribe to communities using it? Like if I go to a sidebar, there is just no subscribe button. But if I go to the same sidebar in my browser, I can subscribe just fine.
Anyone else have this issue?
edit: Just tried again after posting this, and it seems to be working ok now. I’ve updated it like 3 times in the past 2 days so maybe they fixed it. Neat.
I don’t want it to absolutely explode in popularity to the point all the drama follows with it. I’m kinda liking being with a lot of savvy app users who contribute right now.
Now, if only /r/NoSleep would move here, I wouldn’t have to keep visiting Reddit. But I am just too addicted to the stories there
I miss the entire catalogue of posts in fansubs like rdr2. My comfort activity was to just read randomly through those.
The second is that when I need answers my go to search is <my question>+reddit on google. I think I’ll continue visiting reddit for all of the query stuff
I looked around and we have a nosleep here as well though. Admittedly there’s not much in it yet. It would be nice if more people will post here, but it’s only been week 1 of the great migration. I’m staying positive that overtime, communities will move or not, crosspost here. :)
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using an URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !nosleep@lemmy.world
I imagine apps and frontends should implement a hook to prevent this. It’ll be a lot easier to enforce that way.
I missed a niche community of mine. It’s a ghost town, but I talk to myself and I see the lurkers lol one can hope. Post and the will come.
If you have friends from other social media, you can always invite them over, if you have a forum account or facebook, you can also link lemmy.world in the website or signature. :) or just work on posting interesting things to communities here in the hopes that it will get the ball rolling.
That’s a great idea to link to Lemmy.world, I could make like a little intro welcome card with the tips we picked up to get used to this world
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Upon my most recent browse, I have noticed a drop in engagement for sure, and my attention has been brought to many “how do you feel about X” comments that are poorly hidden bots driving discourse. Maybe I’m just more aware of it now though. I’ve definitely noticed a change though.
Platforms get arrogant and eventually overstep the bounds. It already happened since a long time with FB and Twitter, and now it’s Reddit’s turn. You can only take your user base for granted for so long. The problem is that economic conditions are changing rapidly right now and all these Silicon Valley firms are trying to find new ways to make money in a much more hostile climate. This has led them to some desperate moves that are alienating their users. I think it will be a slow war of attrition from here on, just like what happened to most of the other platforms that made this same mistake over time.
I’m there with ya!
My corners of Reddit – the apolitical, narrowly to very narrowly focused subs – never protested or gave up. Some are trying to move to various platforms: one to Lemmy, another to Squabbles, a third thinking about Tildes. The one that posted about moving to Lemmy appears to be a moderate success; the others not.
Corporation sacrificed user trust, but isn’t completely gone yet. More at 11, stay tuned!
The fact that the Reddit API scandal has now been spun into some ‘battle’ of salty users vs Reddit is, in microcosm, a win for Reddit. By all appearances, when viewed under that lens, they ‘won’.
It was never a struggle, it was a statement of intent. And that statement of intent has, in my opinion, been actioned because here we are now, with a promising alternative.
Reddit will probably flourish under its new guise, accepting that isn’t a sort of capitulation. Just move on.
Reddit is now DIGG
Their traffic went down 3% so not really
Web traffic, not total traffic, and only for the month of June
How much of those 3% are comprised of the 1% who are active posters and the 10% who contribute commenting instead of the ~90% lurkers?
I’m willing to bet more than 20% of the people who left Reddit are frequent contributors instead of lurkers. Those are the users that drive traffic in the long run.
I was definitely a Reddit power user. To the point that people who wanted to dig at me thought “look at all the time you spend on Reddit” would insult me for some reason. They lost me last week and I don’t plan on coming back. I pinned a “Reddit sucks, come to Lemmy” post on my profile and logged out.
I won’t say that I was keeping any decently-large subreddits alive singlehandedly, I didn’t have that ability or power, but I was definitely a major contributor.
Yup, that’s the point. Most of the people who moved away from Reddit are the people who spent the most time there interacting and contributing to content, and those are the most affected by Huffman’s crap. (edit) Most of the people who remained are lurkers, and if a platform only has lurkers, then who’s producing the content? It’s obviously an hyperbole, but it skews the userbase even more towards having more lurkers than posters, and it sets a trend.(/edit)
To be honest, I didn’t even use any 3rd party Reddit apps (even though I was a serial commenter on things I had interest) before coming to Lemmy at the beginning of the protests. I only did so out of my own “moral” choice and because I’m a FOSS enthusiast.
Who cares. Reddit isn’t cool anymore. We’ve moved on.
It’s shown that reddit isn’t the end all for these kind of sites. There’s now multiple players. The end has begun for them.
Couldn’t stand Spez’s response to the whole thing. So here I am.
Reddit didnt crush the protest, redditors and mods did. Mods acted like mods (their stereotypes mostly deserved) and users were so addicted to the site that they lost their shit that their favorite sub went dark for 2 days. The mods never had leverage and 99% of the users have no desire to lift a finger to meaningfully protest.
Reddit doesnt have any real competition (yet… hopefully lemmy does well) so they dont really care if what theyre doing pisses off users. The site is thoroughly in the enshittening phase of its life cycle and the apathy of its users ensure that reddit has no incentive to reverse this.
Keep in mind that those users who do not want to lift a finger in protest are usually the ones who do not want to lift a finger to contribute. Not a speedy death, but with our new content those lazy viewers will grow bored and find another source. I don’t think Reddit has a plan to replace the content. No new content and it will spiral down the tubes. But as some pointed out, the IPO will be done by then and the current administration will be out on their yachts when it does finally implode.
Users that do want to protest can edit all of their posts and delete them. Reddit will undelete them currently, but they pull back the edited posts. If people do this in small batches it won’t set off any alerts and the site stops having any relevant content.
The mods never had leverage
Of course the mods had leverage: they could have just walked away.
The reality is that there’s no difference between mods and users: everyone is just too addicted to their routines and habits and mindless opening of Reddit and doomscrolling that the vast, vast, vast majority of people just wanted to go back to how things were.
Or, maybe, the “vast, vast, vast majority of people” just don’t share the same concerns that brought you to lemmy.
Just because people don’t what you want doesn’t make them wrong.
There is no shortage of people that are willing to moderate and Reddit doesnt really care if they do the job well by the community’s standards so long as those new mods do what reddit wants. And at this point, the mods walking away in protest is the equivalent of saying “you cant lay me off! I quit!” Redditors do not understand at all who is in control on that site.
/r/interestingasfuck suggests there is a shortage of people willing to moderate – or that Reddit is willing to let large, popular subs die if they protested.
Reddit has literally kicked mods out of a sub then banned that same sub shortly after for being unmoderated. That sort of stupidity cant be intimidated or reasoned with.
Spez more or less said point blank that he views Musk’s management of Twitter as inspiration for how he intends the site to be run. That should have been enough on its own to let people know what level of insane they were dealing with.
It’s still massive and wasn’t going to die over the period of a month. People are looking elsewhere but currently have no good alternatives. Lemmy/kbin is awesome, but still not ready for the entire Reddit community. We’ll get there eventually!
we’ll never get there if users keep gatekeeping
I see many people arguing against improving the ux “its not that hard just learn it”
even defederating meta is bad imo, I think people will be more likely to switch over to alternatives if thread is federated, but if we defederate it then everyone will just stay on threads. Defederating only hurts us, not meta
facts, they’re just taking away user choice to block on their own
Yep, it’s on us to help move the content and people over to Lemmy. People and search engine will continue to default to Reddit. Eventually so much content will be on Lemmy/Kbin that reddit becomes a thing of the past, hopefully.
Everything that reddit has that is of any value is the contributions of it’s users. Disrespecting those users will make them leave the platform, if not today, someday soon. Redditors! Choose to delete all your content NOW and let Spez IPO the ashes.
Before you delete, do transfer your content to lemmy or kbin or any fediverse instance. It can only benefit the community the more content we have :)
I’ve seen a few users mentioning their comments have been “undeleted” after a few attempts to remove them, and I’ve also seen comments by [deleted] accounts that still have their comments visible. This was right after the 48hr shutdown period, so it might not be a thing anymore.
Ya they were rolling back mass deleted/edited comments. That was a huge red flag for me, along with censoring info about lemmy etc. I don’t need that in my life.
I wish I saw this sooner. I deleted my comments yesterday (12+ year reddit account).
Can you link some tools to do so?
How can we transfer our content? Is there a script or tool to do so? I assume we only transfer our own posts we made and not any comments
There is a Bot.
