• WamGams@lemmy.ca
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    7 months ago

    You accused me of being both a Zionist and a doomer, with zero regard to the truth value of those accusations.

    But yes, I think our conversation has reached its natural conclusion. Best of luck to you.

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      7 months ago

      @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world can’t go down two posts about Palestine without calling someone a Zionist. It’s impossible to have any discourse with these people because they aren’t interested in facts as much as they are interested in grandstanding.

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        @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world can’t go down two posts about Palestine without calling someone a Zionist

        That’s completely false. I might sometimes call out someone who’s acting like a Zionist but isn’t one, since I’m not a mind reader, but yours is a completely unfair accusation designed to discredit me and make yourself look better in comparison.

        it’s impossible to have any discourse with these people

        Stereotype much?

        they aren’t interested in facts as much as they are interested in grandstanding.

        Doesn’t it hurt your brain to project that much?

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          7 months ago

          @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world I’m not the one going around calling everyone Zionists (or Zionist adjacent). Or any epiteth really. I don’t care about how I look. I’m more frustrated by the fact that I spent so much time arguing with you when facts or evidence clearly mean nothing. You’re a pathetic troll.

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            I’m not the one going around calling everyone Zionists (or Zionist adjacent)

            Neither am I. You ARE the one that keeps insisting, based on realistically useless nuclear weapons and a single arms order that had been signed but not yet delivered, one of the most important things that self-declared Zionist Joe Biden could do wouldn’t do anything to stop or even slow the genocide. That kind of defeatist rhetoric is often used by the enemies of progress to discourage others to ask for improvements, which is why I suspected that you were making excuses for Biden because you’re a Zionist yourself rather than stubbornly clinging to an utterly bizarre claim for no reason.

            Or any epiteth really

            No, you just unfairly accuse them of arguing in bad faith and/or with no understanding, which is MUCH more insulting than being called a name you don’t like.

            I’m more frustrated by the fact that I spent so much time arguing with you when facts or evidence clearly mean nothing

            There you go again with the projection. If you’re so tired of engaging with me, why tag me in your false accusations so that I get a notification even though you’re replying to someone else’s comment?

            You’re a pathetic troll.

            Nah, that would be you. More projection.

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              7 months ago

              This you?

              Nobody except someone who’s either a Zionist defending the weapons shipments or extremely pessimistic would make such a wild claim in good faith.

              That’s just from today. I’ve seen you do it in every Palestine thread.

              Apparently you CAN read. Now that you went back and read my links you feel like you have some kind of argument. Those links were from 3 seconds of googling (which is more you’ve ever done since your dad jizzed inside your mother). I could spend more time researching stats on Israel’s armament stockpile but I know it won’t matter because numbers & figures are irrelevant. And yea, when I say “you people” I mean cum buckets that like to grandstand on social media for brownie virtue points.

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                Nobody except someone who’s either a Zionist defending the weapons shipments or extremely pessimistic would make such a wild claim in good faith.

                Bolded the part you apparently didn’t read.

                I’ve seen you do it in every Palestine thread.

                First of all, no. That’s simply not true.

                Secondly, even if it was, the people who disagree with my pro-Palestine views will tend to be arguing for Israel being in the right, which naturally leads to a higher concentration of Zionists than elsewhere.

                You might as well complain about how I sometimes call people who call Biden “the best president ever” neoliberals. Because they are.

                Those links were from 3 seconds of googling

                So it’s ok to base your entire argument on irrelevant and/or misleading data if you found it fast? 🙄

                (which is more you’ve ever done since your dad jizzed inside your mother)

                Hardy har har. That’s some Faux News level shit in both factuality and funniness 🤦

                because numbers & figures are irrelevant

                To how much of a stockpile the IDF has? Wtf are you smoking? Do you think arms capabilities are independent of reality? Come to think of it yeah, it very much sounds like you do.

                And yea, when I say “you people” I mean cum buckets

                What happened to never calling people names, Professor Aboveitall? 🙄

                to grandstand on social media for brownie virtue points.

                Yeah, there’s no point in grandstanding for likes this many comments in. Everyone else will have long since lost interest in our bickering.

                The only reason I’m still wasting my time on your nonsense is an unfortunate combination of stubbornness and poor impulse control. What’s YOUR excuse?

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                  You can bold whatever you want, but you still felt the need to throw the label in --as is the way shown by our sanctified fathers of the left at ml. The options it seems are either pessimist or Zionist. God forbid anyone else question the sacred texts of the oppressed. We shall not stray from the path. Now go back to gobbling up that Hamas cum. Gobble gobble slurp. :P

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                    you still felt the need to throw the label in

                    As one of two possible reasons why anyone would ever make a claim that stupid, except for pure trolling.

                    The options it seems are either  pessimist  or Zionist.

                    For making that SPECIFIC ridiculous claim, yes. There’s simply no logic behind making such a claim if you’re neither.

                    God forbid anyone else question the sacred texts of the oppressed.

                    Fuck off with that strawman bullshit. It was about your SPECIFIC claim from the start. Nobody ever demanded lockstep agreement like you’re implying.

                    Now go back to gobbling up that Hamas cum

                    Yeah because that’s a totally normal thing to say to someone who’s never uttered an approving word about Hamas 🙄

                    Whether or not you’re a Zionist, you’re sure as hell using some of their favorite arguments to deflect criticism

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        7 months ago

        I suspect this person is like some of the users on .ml (core and boomer, for instance) who are clearly being paid by somebody to do what they are doing.

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          Why pay anyone when you can have children go online and parrot anything you want without anyone fact checking them? They’re just kids. They’re all fucking kids.