• WamGams@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    8 months ago

    Why stop with Iran? Make sure we get the nukes into the hands of Hamas.

    That’s what you really want.

    • machinin@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      8 months ago

      For all your bitching in your post history about people putting words in your mouth, you sure are quick to misrepresent my position.

      So, in your opinion, how do you stop the genocidal and regionally destabilizing actions of Israel? How would you fight the psychopaths running that country?

        • machinin@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          8 months ago

          So the genocide is all Hamas’s fault. Gotcha’.

          No wonder you get downvoted everywhere you post. You seem like an absolutely abhorrent individual.

          • WamGams@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            8 months ago

            You asked me how to end it, I told you.

            But being pro-genocide of the Palestinian people, neither Hamas, nor their supporters (paid or otherwise) have an interest in seeing this end.

            • machinin@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              8 months ago

              So just surrending to the genocidal maniacs is the best way to stop the genocide.

              neither Hamas, nor their supporters (paid or otherwise) have an interest in seeing this end.

              So Israel could completely subvert Hamas’s plans by simply refraining from killing the children, women, civilians, journalists, aid workers, then allowing the aid convoys in with their food so people aren’t starving any more, rebuild the health care infrastructure they destroyed, liberate the children and civilians they are holding captive under military tribunals, returning stolen land to the Palestinians and tear down the apartheid apparatus. How could they lose with that strategy? Seems like a win for everyone involved, and you can defeat Hamas along with all the other benefits!

              For some reason, I don’t think the genocidal maniacs in Israel want that solution.

              • WamGams@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                8 months ago

                Pro-Hamas drivel and I’m not interested in a conversation with somebody whose only goal is pushing both anti-Palestinian and anti-Israeli propaganda.

                • machinin@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  So I imagine you think Israel is actually treating the Palestinians with respect and dignity?

                  Best that you scamper away from this little conversation. I think everyone sees you are part of the problem with Israel.

                  Fuck Israel.

                  • WamGams@lemmy.ca
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    8 months ago

                    As somebody very interested in helping the Palestinian people get respect and dignity from all their neighbors, I look forward to Qatar cutting funding of Hamas (and getting the money to the Palestinian people directly).

                    That money is going to be needed to rebuild, and more importantly, start a provisional government.

        • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          Hamas has offered a ceasefire since day one. Israel refuses because they want to commit Genocide.

          • WamGams@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            8 months ago

            Why does Hamas keep rejecting the cease fire in negotiations?

            If you trust the words of terrorists, you are likely to get burned, and I would be careful, because sometimes the burning is literal.

            • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              8 months ago

              What? Hamas didn’t reject ceasefires. Unless you are referring to israel wanting to hold a small 6 week pause in exchange for all the hostages and then continue their Genocide. Surely nobody is stupid enough to take that moronic offer seriously. Especially because israel would violate the it directly as they have already done during the previous one.

              • WamGams@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                3
                ·
                8 months ago

                So wait… you started with the position that Israel hasn’t offered a ceasefire, to Hamas would be idiots if they accepted a ceasefire.

                Quite impressive rhetorically, but your rhetoric is getting innocent Palestinians killed.

                • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  A 6 week “truce” and a real ceasefire are two entirely different things. Hamas has offers a real ceasefire. Israel always rejects it

                  If israel offers a 5 minute “ceasefire” in exchange for all the hostages are you enthusiastically going to praise them as well?

                  • WamGams@lemmy.ca
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    8 months ago

                    It’s a shame neither Hamas nor their online supporters care enough about the Palestinian people to accept conditions for a ceasefire.

                    40 hostages to end a genocide? The fact that you guys are refusing such a deal makes me think the extinction of the Palestinian people is more your guys’ goal than Israel’s at this point.

    • Squizzy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      They would have all their land and thousands more women and children alive and well if they did have them.

      • WamGams@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        8 months ago

        Imagine if Hamas actually had put the work in. Probably would have accomplished more than spending the last 20 years doing nothing but digging tunnels.

        Or you know, they could have had elections this entire time. Used the money Qatar gives them to build something for the Palestinian people besides forcing their citizens to commit terrorist attacks.

        It’s really a tragedy at every corner here.