• davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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          Notably the ban doesn’t kick in until after the election, after which it may not even be Biden’s problem. Maybe ByteDance will shut it down sooner. Maybe the next administration won’t follow through with the ban. 🤷

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            It was smart to delay the ban. The original bill would have banned it before the election - monumentally stupid! This, at least, delays the impact.

            People are paying attention, though, and TikTok has been buying ads to campaign against this law. It’s still going to have an impact.

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              And Biden himself has a tiktok account that pumps out content.

              The whole thing is very cynical and weird.

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                It’s a piss poor attempt to try control tiktok and ensure they play along. They don’t really want it banned, they just want to control the flow of information and it’s absolutely destroying the illusion of the first amendment!

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          Well yeah, but saying this was all on democrats isn’t true, either. A democratic signed it, but an entire group of Democrats and Republicans are the reason it exists. Besides, I’m ok with the ban. A lot of people are actually, so technically, yeah it will affect who we vote for haha

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            Maybe in your circles people are okay with banning a social media company due to perceived ‘spying’, but in reality we know why the blues/reds want to ban it.

            People in my circles are fighting and helping share why these bans are bad for our society and free speech in general.

            I hope that helps you see a different view from what you are used to!

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      What’s the overlap between people who vote Republican and people who use Tiktok? I’m actually curious.

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          Which is the same as a vote for a dictator. And that is super cool if you are looking forward to Project 2025, and selling out loved ones so they can be put in camps as political prisoners.

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            Have you thought maybe the democrats themselves own some responsibility for the jeopardy the election is in? Maybe banning one of the most popular social media sites right before an election was a bad move?

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              Pretty sure that funding, aiding and abetting a genocide while denying there’s money for anything that benefits their own citizens is what’s losing the democrats support.

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              It had votes/support from both sides. And giving away democracy because you’re upset about a social media site seems like a bad take. Imagine telling future generations you traded the country’s democracy because you were mad at them because they took away your short video sites.

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                Can you not comprehend what i said? Tiktok is more popular with younger people, and younger people have historically voted more for democrats. Of course republicans would help democrats shoot themselves in the foot here. How can you see this and not give any responsibility to the democrats?

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            🤡

            Is a vote for Trump actually two votes for Trump? Oh! Is every dollar you don’t donate to Biden a dollar donated to Trump?

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              Mathematician here, I can answer this. Equivalence relations are symmetric, so if staying home is a vote for Trump then showing up to vote for Trump is the same as staying home on election day.

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                Okay, but then isn’t staying home also a vote for Biden by the same logic?

                This isn’t a binary relation, there’s clearly three options (vote for Biden, vote for Trump, vote for neither).

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                  That doesn’t make any sense. The idea that staying home could be a vote for Biden seems pretty silly on its face. If that were true, there wouldn’t be any point in going out to vote for him, because the majority (or at least a plurality) of the country stays home regardless. He’d win in a landslide.

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                    Why is it that staying home is a vote for Trump but it isn’t a vote for Biden. Doesn’t that seem strange to you?

                    And you’re right, it doesn’t make any sense, and that applies to staying home being a vote for Trump. The plurality of the country stays home, so Trump should win in a landslide, right? Yet he lost once. This seems like a glaring error in the idea that a protest vote is a vote for Trump.

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              I’m not following your logic here. Not voting, or actually voting for Trump both work in his favor because his base is going to vote for him no matter what. You would only be hurting the side that wants us to continue to have future elections. But at the end of the day if you can look in the mirror and be ok with selling out democracy more power to ya.

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                They just passed a fascist bipartisan bill to censor TikTok because it was showing the truth about Gaza and because it was disrupting the preexisting media cartel that already exists in the US. This was part of a larger fascist foreign aid package meant to help Israel carry out its genocide and prolong the war in Ukraine instead of seek a peace deal and help provoke a war in Taiwan by arming them to the teeth and pushing us to fucking WW3. By voting for them you are making it clear that they can do anything they want to you and you’ll beg for more.

                I already decided not to vote for genocide Joe a while ago. If I’m going to vote at all, I’m going to vote the way Bushnell did.

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            No, it’s not.

            Abstaining from voting is an option the voter is given.

            I bet you have a heck of a time differentiating apples, oranges, and pears.

            “A pear is basically just an orange because you didn’t pick the apple.” - TimLovesTech

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            The guy you replied to has replied in a similar variant of “x event happened, therefore dems don’t want to win.”

            Can’t fault them though, he’s just doing his job and following orders. The opposite would be …. Unthinkable

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        By the dictator, you mean the one running the genocide and expanding spying on the civilian population as we currently speak, right?

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      Yes, that is just another reason the DNC/Democrates will continue to lose support, compared to 2020.

      Some also left the duopoly due to following the DNC Fraud Lawsuit, Bernie Sanders 2016.

      Interesting times we are living in, we shall continue to follow!