• go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    7 months ago

    Then it makes even less sense to vote for a third party because you know it doesn’t do anything.

    I can stay home if that would make you feel better?

    If we can get rid of fptp voting system

    Never going to happen with the kind of candidates who make it through the primaries.

    By no stretch of the imagination did I even remotely suggest I get to choose who you vote for.

    Ok then accept I’m going to vote 3rd party and stop trying to convince me to do something else.

    • EatATaco@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      7 months ago

      I can stay home if that would make you feel better?

      This is the second bad faith argument you’ve made. Why?

      Never going to happen with the kind of candidates who make it through the primaries.

      Which is why I said you have to work from the ground up.

      Ok then accept I’m going to vote 3rd party and stop trying to convince me to do something else.

      I’m defending being rational and reasonable. Even if it won’t convince you, it might stop some other person who reads this from irrationally acting counter productive to their interests.

      • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        7 months ago

        There is no course of action which is productive to our interests.

        As an aside, hypothetically, if you had a choice between:

        1. Shipping weapons to Israel
        2. Biden wins the 2024 election

        Which would you choose? You can only pick one and there is no third option in this purely hypothetical situation.

        • EatATaco@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          7 months ago

          There is no course of action which is productive to our interests.

          If you honestly believe this, then the only rational move is to use your vote strategically to increase the chances of the viable candidate - who most closely aligns with your belief - getting elected. Effectively throwing your vote away on an unviable candidate increases the chances of the candidate less like you will win.

          Play the game you’re playing, not the one you wish you were.

          And to answer your question, definitely 2. Although I believe i’m missing something.

          • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            8
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            7 months ago

            Play the game you’re playing, not the one you wish you were.

            I am. I hope to demonstrate the Democrat party is non-viable when it refuses to make material compromises with leftists and progressives.