• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Putin can’t possibly think he’ll win if the West as a whole goes to war with him, right? If he does, he’s crazy enough to think he can win a nuclear war.

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      7 months ago

      It’s all covert stuff for a reason. He knows that Western countries won’t respond with nukes against covert actions, especially if those covert actions are indirectly meant to prop up the pro-Putin parties in those countries.

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      7 months ago

      Don’t worry, he’s ‘only’ betting that useful idiots in the West will restrain Western governments from reacting in any way, shape, or form.

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        That’s why, although I’m in no way a fan of Macron, I love that he has put the idea out of at the very least starting to put boots on the ground.

        At the end of that war, we can not permit it to be in the form of Ukraine losing even an inch of landmass. Because then in 5-10 years, Putin will just do the same thing again, maybe not in Ukraine, but elsewhere.

        The only way to stop Putins madness is by making every thing he does cost him dearly.

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          France putting “boots on the ground” would mean a direct conflict between nuclear powers and would likely drag in the entirety of NATO.

          Unless you want to live Fallout, such an escalation would be absolutely insane.

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            The threat needs to be there and real, otherwise Putin and Russia will never stop.

            THAT is the insanity.

            We’ve tried the economic approach, we’ve tried talking, we’ve tried not doing more than sending weapons to Ukraine.

            It clearly doesn’t work and Putin will just keep repeating what he has been doing until there’s actual repercussions to what he’s doing.