A Florida father was arrested over the weekend after pulling an AR-15 rifle on an Uber driver who dropped his daughter off at his home, according to deputies.
Hollonbeck admitted to his actions and said he was “afraid for his daughter’s safety and didn’t know who she was with or that she had left without permission,” according to the report.
And yet again this shows that people cannot use guns responsibly, guns must be prohibited. The US could be such a nice place…
Not really. You’d still have way too many stupid and hateful people.
They’d just be slightly less dangerous stupid and hateful people.
(And yes, I do mean slightly, but am not going to go more into details of the other methodology with much higher body counts that the hatred of small minded folks have taken over the years.)
And yes, I do mean slightly, but am not going to go more into details of the other methodology with much higher body counts that the hatred of small minded folks have taken over the years
Apologist bullshit. There is no reality where this man threatens an Uber driver with a truck bomb. Even when talking about domestic terrorism, bombs are far more effort with far more risk, which is why they’re not already used.
You’re not going to try to force somebody out of their car with a flick-knife
In countries that don’t just give guns to anyone who can write their name, carjacking is functionally unheard of. It’s just not a crime that happens. If the criminal doesn’t have a gun, you can just drive away.
The “afraid for [person]’s safety” line is because it covers his ass for any self-defense stuff. Because now his lawyer can claim that his use of force was justified, because he believed his daughter was in danger.
It’s textbook Concealed Carry stuff. Pretty much any CCW class will teach that if you ever need to use your weapon, you only tell the responding cops three things: 1) I believed my life (or the life of someone else) was in danger. 2) Someone was shot, and then I called 911 and began rendering aid. 3) I’m invoking my fifth amendment right to remain silent, and my sixth amendment right to an attorney. After that, you shut the fuck up and wait for your lawyer.
Basically, the cops are going to find out who fired the gun eventually. So instead of hiding it, (which makes you look guilty) simply claim it was self-defense and then let your lawyer handle the rest. Because now the prosecutor has to prove that it wasn’t self defense, which is much harder than simply proving you pulled the trigger. Because (depending on the local laws, of course,) self defense often only requires that you believed your life was in danger. Whether or not that belief was accurate is irrelevant. So as long as you’re able to stick to your very simple “I believed my life was in danger” story, you’ll likely be able to walk away.
It’s the same shit abusers and PR firms do when shit hits the fan. Instead of waiting for the cops to bust your door in with a warrant, you get in front of the situation and reframe the scenario so it suits you. Dead men tell no tales, so tell your tale loudly and make the dead man look fucking awful. Frame the person you shot as the aggressor, and yourself as the scared victim. You had no choice but to use your weapon, because you were just so scared. That mean (dead) attacker was scaring you, and forced your hand. You flip the script, and the cops will let you go.
And yet again this shows that people cannot use guns responsibly, guns must be prohibited. The US could be such a nice place…
Not really. You’d still have way too many stupid and hateful people.
They’d just be slightly less dangerous stupid and hateful people.
(And yes, I do mean slightly, but am not going to go more into details of the other methodology with much higher body counts that the hatred of small minded folks have taken over the years.)
I’d gladly take an unarmed stupid, hateful people over this
Apologist bullshit. There is no reality where this man threatens an Uber driver with a truck bomb. Even when talking about domestic terrorism, bombs are far more effort with far more risk, which is why they’re not already used.
Oh man, Florida Man armed with grenades would make same amazing headlines.
Which is the point?
Stupid and hateful people just not having guns does not “a nice place” make.
An asshole will always be an asshole but an asshole without an AR-15 is less dangerous to everyone else. I stand by what I said.
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I dunno, I reckon they’d be a lot quieter if there’s an actual danger of physical harm to themselves.
Guns make people too eager to do crazy shit. You’re not going to try to force somebody out of their car with a flick-knife.
In countries that don’t just give guns to anyone who can write their name, carjacking is functionally unheard of. It’s just not a crime that happens. If the criminal doesn’t have a gun, you can just drive away.
The kidnappers are dropping our own children off at our on front door?
Cocks gun
Not today.
The “afraid for [person]’s safety” line is because it covers his ass for any self-defense stuff. Because now his lawyer can claim that his use of force was justified, because he believed his daughter was in danger.
It’s textbook Concealed Carry stuff. Pretty much any CCW class will teach that if you ever need to use your weapon, you only tell the responding cops three things: 1) I believed my life (or the life of someone else) was in danger. 2) Someone was shot, and then I called 911 and began rendering aid. 3) I’m invoking my fifth amendment right to remain silent, and my sixth amendment right to an attorney. After that, you shut the fuck up and wait for your lawyer.
Basically, the cops are going to find out who fired the gun eventually. So instead of hiding it, (which makes you look guilty) simply claim it was self-defense and then let your lawyer handle the rest. Because now the prosecutor has to prove that it wasn’t self defense, which is much harder than simply proving you pulled the trigger. Because (depending on the local laws, of course,) self defense often only requires that you believed your life was in danger. Whether or not that belief was accurate is irrelevant. So as long as you’re able to stick to your very simple “I believed my life was in danger” story, you’ll likely be able to walk away.
It’s the same shit abusers and PR firms do when shit hits the fan. Instead of waiting for the cops to bust your door in with a warrant, you get in front of the situation and reframe the scenario so it suits you. Dead men tell no tales, so tell your tale loudly and make the dead man look fucking awful. Frame the person you shot as the aggressor, and yourself as the scared victim. You had no choice but to use your weapon, because you were just so scared. That mean (dead) attacker was scaring you, and forced your hand. You flip the script, and the cops will let you go.