@Codeberg@social.anoxinon.de
Actually since yesterday I'm pondering about the idea to build a #federated version of stackoverflow, nothing written yet, I'm reading, researching.
Also, right now I was checking this stack exchange sqlite db under CC BY-SA 4.0 to check how useful and doable would be import this data and using as a base for the federated version.
Also wondering if we could use this data somehow to train our own opensource AI to help the community, but I'm do not have knowledge on LLM/AI things. Please if there is any expert I would appreciate the opinion on that.
https://seqlite.puny.engineering
EDIT:
A better place to download the dump content, with more interesting tables, like the one with the Votes; the other link the dumped data only contains two tables Users and Posts. Right now downloading the whole data related with stack overflow, and will take some time due my humble home internet connection, so I didn't have the chance to take a look at the data, but I guess that's the interesting thing.
here:
https://archive.org/download/stackexchange
Codeberg was asking about this. The linked toot by a commenter points to :
IMHO stack exchange is basically reddit/lemmy with hand cuffs because no threaded discussions and every other question is closed as off topic. I don’t understand what another stack exchange would buy anybody.
I guess one thing stack exchange does well is “related questions” and tagging, but… I dunno. (shrugs)
With a few more additions, lemmy could serve as a good replacement. We already have a Forum / NewComments sort which is perfect for question / answer type communities. We could add a feature to make default sorts for specific communities, so they would feel less fast, or possibly a sort that brings zero comment posts (IE meaning unanswered), to the top.
The reputation and “accepted answer” features from SO are a lot less important than threaded comments can be, especially since questions often need new answers every year, making the “accepted answer” pointless.
Especially with Lemmy getting support for plugins soon, I don’t see the need for making a new platform
A new sorting method for “unanswered” is a cool idea. I’m not sure if it’s quite as simple as just finding posts with 0 comments, because people can put additional questions in the comments but it’s still unanswered. Also how do you sort them for posts with the same number of comments/answers. But this is definitely something that a plugin could handle.
I saw someone else suggested we could just put “[unanswered]” in the title and then edit the title to “[answered]”
And guess what, it can be done just as easily, if not, more easily on a federated instance. You don’t gain at real additional control over your data (and no putting “covered under license X” is about as realistic as those Facebook posts saying “I don’t give anyone access to my posts”).
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, realistically the only way to control your data from AI is a DRM type solution which everyone fundamentally hates.
Useful constraints would focus discussion to keep questions/replies brief, relevant, and hopefully helpful, wouldn’t they? I just wonder how up and downvoting would work since that would go very differently from Lemmy.
I’m sure this has been solved already but I’m just wondering how you ensure people are voting based on the helpfulness and/or merit of the response. That’s the ideal on Lemmy but it’s obviously not always the case here. Presumably, you’d have to be logged in on the other platform to vote but you can just see the discussion from Lemmy, I guess?
Honest question: Why?
IMHO stack exchange is basically reddit/lemmy with hand cuffs because no threaded discussions and every other question is closed as off topic. I don’t understand what another stack exchange would buy anybody.
I guess one thing stack exchange does well is “related questions” and tagging, but… I dunno. (shrugs)
With a few more additions, lemmy could serve as a good replacement. We already have a
Forum/NewCommentssort which is perfect for question / answer type communities. We could add a feature to make default sorts for specific communities, so they would feel less fast, or possibly a sort that brings zero comment posts (IE meaning unanswered), to the top.The reputation and “accepted answer” features from SO are a lot less important than threaded comments can be, especially since questions often need new answers every year, making the “accepted answer” pointless.
Especially with Lemmy getting support for plugins soon, I don’t see the need for making a new platform
A new sorting method for “unanswered” is a cool idea. I’m not sure if it’s quite as simple as just finding posts with 0 comments, because people can put additional questions in the comments but it’s still unanswered. Also how do you sort them for posts with the same number of comments/answers. But this is definitely something that a plugin could handle.
I saw someone else suggested we could just put “[unanswered]” in the title and then edit the title to “[answered]”
Default sort would be great. Especially for sports events. But I don’t want Lemmy to become an answer repository, keep it as a link aggregator
You missed the StackExchange and AI story this week ?
And guess what, it can be done just as easily, if not, more easily on a federated instance. You don’t gain at real additional control over your data (and no putting “covered under license X” is about as realistic as those Facebook posts saying “I don’t give anyone access to my posts”).
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, realistically the only way to control your data from AI is a DRM type solution which everyone fundamentally hates.
I don’t think this can be solved with any type of technology. It needs legislation. These AI companies need regulation.
Federated Stack Exchange isn’t harder for AI to eat. If anything it’s easier.
Useful constraints would focus discussion to keep questions/replies brief, relevant, and hopefully helpful, wouldn’t they? I just wonder how up and downvoting would work since that would go very differently from Lemmy.
how so?
I’m sure this has been solved already but I’m just wondering how you ensure people are voting based on the helpfulness and/or merit of the response. That’s the ideal on Lemmy but it’s obviously not always the case here. Presumably, you’d have to be logged in on the other platform to vote but you can just see the discussion from Lemmy, I guess?
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