• chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Hamas is evil. But who have the Palestinian children been killing?

    Of the 35,000 official deaths (the real number is likely much, much higher), 25,000 have been positively identified as innocents - 15,000 of which were children.

    More than 50% of all homes in Gaza have been destroyed.

    Hospitals, schools, and refugee camps have been intentionally targeted.

    International food and water are being withheld while aid workers, UN personnel, and jornalists are being targeted.

    There’s no way to justify this as an appropriate response to Hamas.

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      2 months ago

      Both sides have killed children. Hamas is not innocent. They took hostages. Some of those hostages were children. They abused, raped, and even killed their hostages. In response, Israel has struck Palestinians; Hamas and non-Hamas, killing men, women, and children. Both sides are killing people, instead of taking their families and leaving the area. No one should have Gaza. Neither side deserves it. I refuse to support either side. I would only support a movement by the UN to relocate families as asylum seekers, in an effort to remove the children from the war. No one else deserves sympathy in this but the children. That’s my opinion. You don’t need to agree with it, but I can’t support someone who says they support one side, or the other, after all of the killings. It would be like cheering on a prison yard fight between two convicted murderers and trying to convince some bystander that either one is the lesser evil. I’m not buying a ticket to this event. I don’t want to watch. Neither side is a hero.

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        2 months ago

        This argument might be valid, except both sides are not equal. One side has more power than the other. Palestine is under occupation.

        Then you would have been against the ANC in South Africa. The ANC was oppressed and used violence against their oppressors. Then you would have been against Civil Rights in America. The Civil Rights movement used violence against their oppressors in America.

        Palestinians have an internationally recognized “right to resist” colonial occupation.

      • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Fuck Hamas. They lied about giving up violence to get elected into power, then used violence to remain in power and refuse to hold future elections.

        Also - the government of Israel is committing at least 3 of the 5 categories of genocide as defined by the Holocaust Museum.

        Opposing Israel’s objectively-worse behavior is not the same as supporting Hamas.

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            2 months ago

            I believe the part that your point is missing is that Hamas and Palestine are two distinct groups. I’m sure there’s some overlap, but Palestinians are not Hamas simply by virtue of being born Palestinian.

            They are generally innocent victims in a war being waged against them by Israel. Hamas is fighting Israel, so I don’t doubt that many Palestinians see them as the only way to fight back, but this is the result of decades of oppression against Palestinians

            I don’t support Hamas’ methods either, but I still support the people of Palestine over the senseless attacks Israel is engaging in