• Yozul@beehaw.org
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    6 months ago

    Who cares? Hanging out in weird niche communities having a circle jerk about who the “true” leftists are is no better than being a liberal. Buncha feel good crap that accomplishes nothing.

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      It’s not a circle jerk, but the collective realization of who the genocides and apartheid enthusiasts are in our government, and how intrinsically it’s the political ideology that tried to destroy representative democracy and not uphold it.

      Republicans are classical liberals, democrats are neo-liberals, the tories in England, Macrons government, etc.

      Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Raegen were liberals.

      The CIA was invented by liberals.

      It’s not a circle jerk, but a realization of why the power structure and institutions need to be replaced with something left wing, for once.

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        And yet I have never seen anyone on Lemmy actually ever suggest doing anything. Its all just self congratulatory moralizing and zero action. A great big ol’ circle jerk.

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          What do you expect people to do, provide you with a manifesto? End every post with a signature, calling to arms? Maybe promote violent revolution? Gtfo here with that attitude, kid. You’re a circlejerk of one, i.e you’re just jerkin yourself off.

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            Excuses, excuses. Nobody’s organizing, nobody’s talking about helping their communities, nobody’s doing anything. This whole platform is just a bunch of terminally online losers making excuses for why they’re the only good people even though they’ve never done anything useful in their entire lives. I don’t care what you do, but do SOMETHING. Even if it’s just talking to you neighbors to see what would make the place you live a better one for the people who live there. Make the world a better place, don’t just wait for someone else to fix it for you.

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              Great. Now delete your account and never come back. That will surely show us losers. I mean it is actively doing something.

              Also, it’s not one platform, but a network of platforms.

              Also, I work in my community to help people directly as a techie and youth worker. Wtf do you do? Like besides bitching about stuff not being done on a social network.

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                Haha, sure dude. Deleting a social media account is making the world a better place, but cause that’s what I meant by doing something. You’re just being pedantic and completely missing the point on purpose now.

                As for what I do, sadly its not really anything anymore. My health problems have gotten pretty severe to the point that I can’t do any of the things I used to. I really have found my people here in this sad useless little corner of the internet. Even if you are doing something useful with your life its despite spending your time in this sad little circle jerk, not because of it. Nobody ever advocates for that here, this is just a “network of platforms” full of arrogant internet douchebagery masquerading as leftist.

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                  I see, so you’re a “cynic tied to a wheelchair”. Figures. Had some friends like that. It sucks balls.

                  In any case, your helplessness and attitude regarding the left is just a response to your condition.

                  You believing people don’t do anything is just a projection of your depression manifest. It’s understandable though.

                  In the end, detaching the old world from the new is a process that will take centuries. It’s nothing we can rush, unfortunately. That’s why neo-liberals and classical liberals still have a tinge of nationalism (hello EU/US emperialism).

                  But on here? This isn’t a political platform, but a social platform. A digital forum more or less. Believing any actual change can be made here is a bit naive. This is a place people come to relax, learn, and like you and me: to vent.

                  If you want to be apart of the change, remember that left wing is inherently social. Try finding local engagements and partaking in that. In the end, leftism requires direct participation, where as rightism is all about isolation.

                  I wish you well.

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      It matters because liberalism is inherently supportive of capitalism, a force of unchecked destruction that is incredibly harmful to the working class and indeed the entire world. To fight this requires you to reject liberalism. There is no other way. Any time you see ‘leftist’ you can just sub in ‘anti-capitalist’ if that’s something you’re more familiar with.

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        If we’re both going the same direction from the current state of things, then it does not matter yet. Liberals are not happy with how conservative things are right now, so we have ground we can cover together. Cover that ground, then start fighting them