• cogman@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I think EV credits are a good thing for society because of the lower environmental cost than gasoline vehicles.

    I tend to agree, but if we are saying “you can have one or the other” then public transport would have a much larger positive impact on society. Particularly, pumping up the rail system would be a massive boon to just about everything. We can move thousands of people huge amounts of goods for a fraction of the space and and energy needs of personal vehicles.

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      1 year ago

      But it is rarely one or the other. Opposition to trains is from completely different areas and levels of government than EVs. There’s very very little change EV credit money would go to trains if they were cancelled.

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        1 year ago

        I agree.

        I think the issue is that high speed rails cuts into the need for EVs which is why musk is opposed to it. Someone that is climate conscious will ride the train instead of buy a new EV.

        And that’s why he sabotaged the high speed rail.

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          1 year ago

          Only in New York and a very few others can you live without a car, so we’ll need much more than just high speed rail. But this article seems to be conjecture, it doesn’t look like they’ve proved musk sabotaged it.

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            1 year ago

            What you need is a good bus system. With that in place you can live anywhere without a car. A high speed rail connecting major hubs and a bus system (or light rail) is all that’s really required. Bus systems can be deployed for even less money than a high speed rail.

            This is feasible anywhere. I’ve lived in fairly small and remote towns in England (Shrewsbury england, population 80,000, for example). There’s a robust public bus system, and a rail system. Living there without a car isn’t just feasible, it’s easy.