• Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    18
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    6 months ago

    Denying people tourist visas based on their country being complicit in a genocide is not an atrocity. Committing genocide is.

    • foggy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      17
      ·
      6 months ago

      To reiterate: We don’t judge a people by their nation state. That’s how atrocities get normalized.

      • Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        6 months ago

        So by your logic Germany should not have paid reparations to the survivors and descendants of the Holocaust and should have paid no reparations to the countries it invaded? Because that was paid by the tax payer money of the people who were part of the war generation and the generations after. Even though clearly the generations after were not directly complicit, they bear the historic responsibility.

        What you are advocating for under the guise of not “normalizing atrocities” is to simply abolish every people from being held accountable for their atrocities.

        • foggy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          13
          ·
          edit-2
          6 months ago

          No I’m not. You’re putting so, so many inaccurate words in my mouth. That’s why I simply repeat myself so you can continue to play crazy person.

          We don’t judge the Russian people for Putin’s actions.

          We don’t judge Germans for Hitler’s actions.

          People are people. Countries are countries.

          To reiterate: We don’t judge a people by their nation state. That’s how atrocities get normalized.

          • mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            7
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            6 months ago

            We do judge those people who voted for Hitler. The Germans do so as well. We use that political party as a slur for a reason. I would not be surprised if other countries use “Nazi” as a slur as well.

            Russia’s election is a joke. That’s what makes this different from blaming the Germans who voted for Hitler for giving the world Hitler.

          • ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            6 months ago

            Are you getting paid by Zionists to spam that thing about the nation state, it’s really fucking weird

            • foggy@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              6 months ago

              Why would you think I am a Zionist? jfc. You people are braindead.

              You don’t judge people based on where they’re fucking born.

              Do you know what “nation state” means? Apparently not.

              • ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                6 months ago

                Why’d you downvote me, I didn’t ask what you were, I asked if they were paying you. Clearly your hands are running faster than your brain is.