• Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    56
    arrow-down
    10
    ·
    6 months ago

    IMHO, it’s not the breed, it’s the training and owner.

    Your humble opinion notwithstanding, Bully dogs are demonstrably more dangerous than other breeds of dogs. It’s not some irrational fear, these dogs make up 66% of all fatal dog attacks. Pick any deceased dog attack victim, and it was a Bully or a Rottweiler that killed them.

    Training is important and can make a difference in outcomes, but the data overwhelmingly points to aggression and lethality between different dog breeds being a matter of nature more than nurture, and that Bully dogs are on the far end of both spectrums leading to the worst outcomes.

      • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        47
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        6 months ago

        This entire article, which I have seen before, strawmans the issue by pretending that a ban on breeding and adoption is supposed to instantly solve fatal dog bite issues, and that short-term data from a failed small-scale direct-enforcement program (throwing the cops at the problem) is some sort of proof that restrictions don’t work.

        The reality is that banning the breeding and adoption of pit bulls would result in a long term reduction in the breed. You can even grandfather existing pit bull owners out of the ban and avoid direct enforcement against people’s pets, because you only need 12-14 years before the majority of pitbulls in the world were born after the ban, and at that point you can just enforce the law when illegal dogs are found.

        If one breed is responsible for 66% of all fatal attacks, and you significantly decrease the number of dogs of that breed, there will be fewer fatal dog attacks. A ban absolutely would work, it just won’t feel good to condemn unwanted pit bulls to euthanasia so that other breeds can be prioritized for adoption.

        And when there is a fatal dog attack by a banned breed, we can hit the owner with murder charges since someone died in the commission of a crime.

          • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            46
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            6 months ago

            How on earth does anything I said logically conclude to “ban humans”?

            It’s like you don’t even take your own position seriously making arguments like this.

              • JCreazy
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                29
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                6 months ago

                I’m curious why you feel so strongly on this situation. Like genuinely, I want to know your side. Your reasoning.

                • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  arrow-down
                  40
                  ·
                  6 months ago

                  if Todd really cared about people, he’d reduce harm in a way that would actually help; persecuting a particular breed of dogs because their owners don’t spay/neuter and train them is asinine.

                  • JCreazy
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    20
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    6 months ago

                    OK, but you can’t train a dog to not attack a person correct?

          • njm1314@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            6 months ago

            With how unhinged you are and your apparent love of bulldogs I’m guessing we’re going to see a story about you being murdered by one before long.

            • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              6 months ago

              bulldogs

              whole 'nother breed than what’s being discussed here sparky. so uh, whatever. Thanks for wishing me dead, you have a good fuckin night lol.

              what an asshole…