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"If we don’t get them, they gonna get us all
I’m down for runnin’ up on them crackers in they city hall" - Dead Prez
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these people’s misplaced loyalty and abhorrent actions speak for themselves. there is no need to resort to slurs that demean others
That slur was very clearly directed at the orange retard, not anyone else. He’s demeaning the exact person he means to demean.
i understand, and that is the point. using a term for how some people simply “are” as an insult is demeaning to them regardless of who the insult is aimed at.
i only ask that you try to see it from a so-called “retard’s” point if view, the message being that trump is as stupid as they are. its not very considerate to be compared to trump, or to be considered the lowest bar for intelligence.
If theres one thing that pisses me off about lemmy its the word filter. I have no idea what you said.
You’re better off
I do see it, “Rtrd” is probably the filter. But I agree - the filter is justified, but there should be a “redacted for [reason], view anyway” option.
I’d switch servers.
You’re removeding my conversation
Then use an instance that doesn’t have the word filter?
On lemmy.world you can see it.
If I switch instances its gonna be to one I set up for myself. Just been putting it off
Wow, anyone who feels like we just have the “casual racism” of some people being impolite to other races needs to read this article. Full of stuff like:
Two years ago, Braxton says he was the only volunteer firefighter in his department to respond to a tree fire near a Black person’s home in the town of 275 people. As Braxton, 57, actively worked to put out the fire, he says, one of his white colleagues tried to take the keys to his fire truck to keep him from using it.
It’s worse than the old cross-burning shit. Horrific. Not sure how to combat it when a whole town’s leadership and infrastructure is so overtly racist.
With bricks through the windows of all their homes. Fuck these racist fucks. They’re willing to let black peoples houses burn down for no reason? Yeah fuck them.
Perhaps not just “let”. Look up the lady that’s been helping him. Her house recently burned down. I didn’t dig deep enough to know if anyone has tried to tie it to this particular town, but I’m gonna let them be guilty until proven innocent in this particular case.
but he’s the mayor, wouldn’t he have legal jurisdiction do serve anyway? up to and including arresting those that try to stop him?
The previous administration is still running the town, so how is Braxton going to arrest them when they control the police force?
He became mayor because he was the only one to qualify for election in 2020, because the incumbent declined to submit paperwork (because they weren’t planning to actually hold an election; the last proper mayoral election was at least 60 years ago, according to the article). The city council responded by holding an unannounced (and probably illegal) special election to re-elect the previous mayor, which no one knew about so Braxton couldn’t apply for it. So the previous mayor has simply continued doing the job, with the backing of the council and all his officials. That’s why Braxton is bringing a lawsuit against them.
presumably the mayor will win the lawsuit, the other guy has no case.
I think this is the same guy who was arrested by his own police force not long ago for “trespassing”. The guy walked down the driveway of a house he thought was abandoned, the homeowner saw him, grabbed his gun and held him at knife point until the police arrived and arrested him. I’ll see if I can’t find a link.
Edit: I was thinking of another (acting) black mayor of a southern state who’s being stymied by his racist colleagues. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna93318
I read the post title and wondered which community it was and it was called usa so I just continued scrolling.
The I thought I should leave a trace of this experience nonetheless so here it was.
But I was assured racism was over because Obama was President!
And yet a bunch of people, mainly good ol boys, from the south say racism isn’t real. How messed up has the US become. It doesn’t matter what your skin color is, what matters is your integrity. This is why I am actively trying to get the hell out of Texas, I can’t stand racism no matter who it’s by.
you’ve got to consider that to a lot of these people racism “isn’t real” because their bar for what qualifies as racist is set incredibly high. “how could that be racist if it’s true?”
you can see a similar anti-trans sentiment in the people who defend jk rowling. “she’s just saying gender can’t mismatch assigned sex, how could the truth be transphobic?” nothing could ever be transphobic or racist or whatever to these people when they think very concept of being bigoted isn’t legitimate
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My white former mother told my black wife both that A.) Racism is everywhere you go and also B.) Racism isn’t that bad and she must be doing something to deserve the racism that our entirely white town was giving her. And that’s why she’s my former mother.
Another sign of a racist, deny and deflect. Classic narcissistic attitude. I can’t be racist it must be something you did
I escaped Tennessee.
All I can say is: It gets better.
Get out as fast as you can, nobody deserves to have to live in the south.
Beautiful states with the absolutely most ugly people.
Facts. I transplanted here from Iowa in 2011. Everything was great until 2016 when the racist overtones really came to a head. My wife is a born Texan and she is liking the idea of moving to Colorado for more than the lack of of racism we see here.
I live in east Texas and the racism here is so prominent by all colors that it’s no longer appealing.
Highly recommend Colorado, it’s beautiful and the people are good too.
We just let the south stay the same after the civil war, that’s our mistake.
Lived there for a little while when I was younger loved it
It took my pacifistic ass years to see the truth of that.
When you take down a regime that bases itself on such anti-social behavior as chattel slavery, you really need to end it as completely as a termite infestation. Just one of them able to come into power again is all it takes to roll everything back.
Every single person involved should have faced federal prosecution, permanently lost their right to vote, and the states on a probationary “no vote” federal oversight where the government re-educated the idea of black property out of their fool heads before the they could be treated as states again.
One of those “racism isn’t real” is the Chief “Justice” of the USSC
It goes even deeper in congress, especially those that represent the south
Yep, Congress still can’t pass a Federal anti-lynching bill.
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TIL, thank you!
Like a lot of people in the US, congressional members are all about control and money. Not necessary in that order
Noah, get the boat.
Sounds about white.
what’s new? thats such disgusting behavior. can’t believe this shit still goes on in 2023
Alabama, so no surprise. Town needs to rise up and take over.
This could happen In almost any rural area of almost any state.
That is messed up. Racism can get quite bad.
Understatement of the millennia.
Sounds about right. When I joined the military I met people from Alabama, and even people from other Southern states had nasty things to say about that state. I didn’t believe it at first, but then I saw enough over time to realize, “I hate to say it, but maybe they’re right. At least about some of the smaller towns and more rural areas.”
I met a few nice people from Alabama, yes. I also met… a surprising number of not so nice types. I’m Asian by the way, not White. I’ll let people fill in the gaps.
Asian who had to live in the south before I managed to escape.
It’s probably worse than you’ve heard, I loved the midwest, but the south was just vile.
This is not a state specific thing, and it’s using a single state as a scapegoat because of this single news story. This kind of shit could happen in rural areas of almost any state. This is a ignorance and racism issue, not a geography issue.
Those white fucking kkk should be run out of town. It fucked up to have a town that as no elections.
Especially a town that is 89% black. They should come together and take their town back.
And qualified immunity should not keep you away from breaking civil rights act. Fuck racist states.
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Bullshit. Don’t paint everyone with a broad brush.
This rural town is 89 percent black. 59 percent of the black population in the US lives in the south in mostly rural places. Rural towns would still exist, they’d just be more pleasant and less racist. I’d even argue that rural America would thrive, because the majority of the population down there would be able to live their lives and do whatever they want, free of discrimination and prejudice.
If all of the KKK were to leave their current towns and start their own, it would be relatively small. According to estimates from 2016 there are about 5,000 - 8,000 KKK members in the US.
So, after brown v board desegregated parts of the south the response of the white community of Memphis was simple:
They all picked up, moved 15 miles east through some wheat fields to set up a new city called Germantown.
I’m Indian, I’ve never seen that level of weapons-grade racism, usually it’s just poor people, this was everybody.
Small towns are rough man. People will run as both the dem and republican candidate in my town and you can’t vote in town meetings if you aren’t a property owner
Small towns need to be made a bit smaller, so they stop being cesspits.
Oh it’s happening quite fast. My very small rural home town was already dwindling when I graduated 15 years ago. Now sports teams in the area are having to consolidate with neighboring towns and consolidating entire districts is in talks.
Great idea, now how do we do that? Cities gentrify and force people into towns and rural areas. Where do these people get to live, the unincorporated wilderness?
The only real answer I have to that question is that leftists need to move to rural areas and help slowly change its political landscape. Or you know, let the elected official govern. Still, I don’t have an answer for this exact scenario. The ultimate problem is who (who have the power to do anything in that exact area) cares? We do, but we aren’t there and I am out of ideas.
wooosh
Where is this? Outside of HOA nonsense, I thought property ownership died as a requirement in the 1800’s.
I guess the slightly less doxx-y question is: what states still allow that crap?
New England
I was so sure your town was doing something unconstitutional because it sounded so blatantly wrong. Found the answer and man, your state needs to sort that shit out.
Fwiw, a few MA towns are going the other way: pushing the state to allow noncitizens to vote in TM.
Yeah town was founded around the Civil War and I suspect that has something to do with the way it is now. Had a brief klan revival in the 80s and 90s, and, given the size, hitting way above our weight for number of people arrested for january 6
Two years ago, Braxton says he was the only volunteer firefighter in his department to respond to a tree fire near a Black person’s home in the town of 275 people. As Braxton, 57, actively worked to put out the fire, he says, one of his white colleagues tried to take the keys to his fire truck to keep him from using it.
There ain’t that many one solid protest from the surrounding communities would wreck the towns racists
Spoken by someone who has clearly never lived in the south.
Brown people in the south are afraid for good reason, you can’t imagine the kind of terror those fat fucks will inflict because they know nobody can stop them.
Bullets work on them as well as they do on everyone else.
The governor would send the national guard with tanks.
You don’t understand the south, black people aren’t citizens there, they’re the enemy.
🤔 I get what you’re saying. They’re very powerful, very well-armed and very organized. But that can’t stop us from stopping them from hurting us.
We can look up the National Guard bases throughout a particular state and just steal the tanks beforehand so they can’t just roll up on us.
You know, we ourselves could actually organize. Possibly claim a big land area and vote for it to be a new state so none of their bullshit is possible anymore.
I think it’s a nice thought, I just don’t think it would work.
When I lived there it felt like the entire social fabric of the source was founded deep down on unimaginable hate, I think they would gladly see everything burn before admitting they were equal in any way.
There’s a reason the civil war and ww2 only ended when there was literally no other choice, hate closes doors.
That being said, ww2 left Germany a much nicer place because all the most hateful people were not around as much anymore, we should have done the same after the civil war, maybe that’s a second chance.
This has the same problem as the southern white NRA attitude.
There aren’t enough untrained civilians to enact a violent rebellion without the support of our military. They don’t have to beat us to win, only stop us from beating them, and the law will take over from there. Unlike in Vietnam, the war of attrition would be against whoever rebelled. Nobody wants to be in a long and protracted war against the US, and if the rebellious behavior doesn’t break down, the perpetrators will stop being seen as heroes and start being seen as criminals.
We saw it firsthand recently with CHOP/CHAZ. Ultimately, a vast majority of onlookers (including some members of CHAZ) were done with it all by the end.
This small town in this snippet is not going to fix its problems by a bunch of people robbing tanks from the Federal Government.
Well then, we can organize, ger the training, or get weapons and go hide in the cities or the forests or the mountains and fight a guerrilla war. There’s always a way around every logistics problem, so arguing a revolution is impossible on logistics grounds is hopeless for you. No matter how many problems you’ll bring forth, we’ll solve them, and we know it’s possible because successful uprisings happened all the time throughout history.
We are not helpless babies and we are not going to be helpless victims acquiescing to racism and genocide just because you don’t want the left to accept use of force as a morally acceptable means to save their own lives. It’s just not gonna happen.
And that “X is the same as Y” shit isn’t gonna fly with me either, because I am not broken enough to be taken in by a pathetic attempt to derail the conversation.
CHOP/CHAZ failed because there was no real plan, no real leadership, no real attempt to do much of anything. But we don’t have to repeat the mistakes of the past.
You say this shit like the right wing hasn’t thought of it and organized militias of their own in response already, in fact, you use them as a wedge to scare leftists inti surrender and complacency, while ignoring 1) the right proves a political faction can successfully organize and arm themselves in the United States, 2) you’re a hypocrite with an agenda, for you try to bully us inti compliance when we so much as try to talk about use of force while they stand around in armor and AR-15s and you are silent. The most you do is use them as an emotional cudgel to beat us, and it’s not gonna work anymore.
We don’t have to listen to you anymore, and I sure as fuck won’t. It is possible for the left to use force to end the racism and it’ll likely have to, end of story.
They would arrest and convict the majority, and move on. With state support, 275 people is just not enough. A few surrounding communities? Their police forces would join in.
The small-town South Sucks if your skin isn’t white.
That’s just cruel. Someone shouldn’t be not allowed serve soley for the color of their skin. That’s not the point of the election – it’s meant to be for the citizens elected this person! They’re just being racist at this point and it’s obvious!
I agree with you, with the caveat that the article says that there wasn’t an election - it was a win by default as the only person to qualify / submit candidacy.
Sounds like a town so devoid of life that it would be more productive to just let it collapse.
There’s a bunch of tiny rural towns that have basically no jobs and no real reason to exist anymore.
Globalization was not kind to rural America. And people listen to snake oil salesmen like Trump because he’s the only one talking at them with a distorted compassion.
That vid does a good job of showing what some of the people that live in those towns are like. He doesn’t really ask them any pointed questions but you can get a better sense of the communities and why they might cling to someone like trump (even if it is bad for them)
So he was running unopposed? That happens all the time.
Sorta.
From the article, they’re such a “good ol boy” community that the people in power just kinda picked the mayor, who served until he was ready to retire and pick another. He was the first person in town, basically ever, to properly fill out electoral paperwork. So they had a mayor picked out (not him) and they basically just pretended he didn’t do it the right way because it isn’t THERE way.
Until I say the next thing and just looking at that, you could kinda see the back-and-forth about how the town’s so messed up his situation was like a loophole, and no doubt if it were a white person winning the mayorship on those terms people might have taken issue and justified a repeat election…
But his reason for running for mayor puts the whole thing into much clearer contrast. When he was a volunteer firefighter, they’d take away the keys when he tried to respond to fires at black folk’s houses, and when he made it he’d be the ONLY firefighter there. They wanted to let those residences burn because of the color of the residents’ skin. As one of the town’s medics, he was specifically locked out of the station for racist reasons and it led to a patient dying.
It’s THAT good-ol-boy a community, and it’s such an overwhelmingly black-majority town (like 80%) that going all democratic just won’t work for them. So fuck em. If they win their defense on claims of qualified immunity of an office they don’t actually hold, immo go down there and declare myself governor.
EDIT: Yet on reading more carefully, it’s complicated. The “lame duck” city council voted on a re-election where he did not get the paperwork, and elected themselves back into office, all before he and the new council were sworn in. They may have managed to push the whole thing into a legal grey area in their favor depending on what the local and state laws are. But the problem is that quite literally everyone is telling him “you’re not the mayor” when he tries to execute ANY mayoral duties. The bank is refusing him financial access. The staff at public buildings is refusing him physical access.
It’s interesting because he’s tried to bring in several lawfirms, and they have mostly just taken his money and failed him. This is, at local scale, to too unlike the federal Constitutional crisis we almost had on 1/6/21. What do you do when a town says you’re not its mayor and the laws are unclear?
It’s honestly kind of sweet that you sound so surprised.
