• NewNewAccount@lemmy.world
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    Former US ambassador to the UN and potential running mate for Trump.

    This is what represents us on the world stage.

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    I just want to say that the most disturbing part of this is not that she did this. It’s that this is the message and image that she has carefully decided will help her achieve her career and personal goals.

    Perhaps what could be worse is if she’s right.

    I don’t think she is. I see a lot of signs of the left failing in ways that make me nervous. but recognition of the senselessness of imperialism is not one of these. I think there is a very strong, clear, growing consensus that our foreign policy is terrible. Many people don’t care that it’s terrible for people in other countries, only that it’s terrible for them, but that’s still a win.

    I don’t love the concept of “isolationism” per se, but between that in empire, I’ll choose isolationism every time. I know there is a liberal establishment that finds isolationism more shocking that defunding the police, and I’m glad that they’re upset. This whole global domination thing that Haley and Biden and Lindsay Graham and Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi and Hilary Clinton are obsessed with is just fucking terrible.

    God, I will freely admit: it can get so much worse than Biden.

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      I just want to say that the most disturbing part of this is not that she did this. It’s that this is the message and image that she has carefully decided will help her achieve her career and personal goals.

      I just want to say that the most disturbing part of this is supporting Genocide. The reasons why any individual would support a Genocide don’t really matter, it’s not a justifiable position anyways. But the act of supporting it, totally does matter and that’s the problem.

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      That last word isn’t in my vocabulary cuz potential sexism

      That piece of shit should have some class

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        Erasing words because there is the potential for damaging feelings isnt the way to go.

        I agree re sexism, etc., but I don’t think we should rewrite books or words. Let people know what they mean, and then explain why it’s bad.

        For ex. Re-publishing Enid Blyton or Mark Twains works with certain words that are racist removed or edited. I don’t think that should be done. Let people learn how they were used and why they are wrong.

        Or pulling down statues of Confederate leaders because they were racist and fought to have slaves. Don’t do that. Keep the statues up. Add a plaque or a message stating why they were assholes. Don’t erase history. Don’t rewrite it. Just make sure people have the knowledge.

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    “What America needs to understand is if Israel’s fighting our enemies, how can we not help them,” said Haley, whose missile message also carried the words “America loves Israel”.

    I’M SORRY?

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      if Israel’s fighting our enemies

      As far as I know, Hamas has never attacked the U.S. They are not America’s enemies. They are terrorists, they are not to be praised or lauded, but they are not America’s enemies.

      It’s certainly not a defense for killing innocent Palestinians.

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    Where is everyone calling you a Russian shill now, @return2ozma@lemmy.world? LOL

    edit: My point is that people only give @return2ozma@lemmy.world shit when he post’s anything mildly critical of Biden, but not when he posts anything else. Wasn’t calling him a Russian shill.

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      The same reason people dont go around harassing nazis when they are talking about football, most people arent terminally online enough to recognise usernames and build up a profile of them in their head and just judge whats in front of them.

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    This is going to be unpopular, and I will accept the down votes. Also, I will never support Trump or any of his lackies. However, those on this forum believe that she is writing that as “finish them” towards the Palestinians, when in actuality I bet she’s writing that as “finish them” towards hamas. That doesn’t excuse anything. Just stating that they believe they are killing terrorists. They are just ignoring the innocent. Good intentions don’t justify this though let me make that very clear.

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      I have no interest in downvoting you, but I would like to say that on priors, I would be surprised to learn that she saw “Hamas” and “Palestinians” as anything other than a distinction without a difference. She’s electively of a set with Lindsey “Nuke Gaza” Graham, and she’s voting for Trump apparently now, who has been very vocal about his support for the “kill them all” perspective.

      Do you have specific evidence that leads you to believe otherwise, or is it more of a charity in humanity thing?

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      Nikki plainly said word by word “Palestinians came, robbed, and killed Israelis.”

      https://youtu.be/kNUlW8Kn60I

      She recieved over a million dollar from AIPAC during last year alone and has been Israeli’s right-wing puppet for over a decade. She also previously supported and made numerous genocidal statements including nuking Gaza.

      https://youtu.be/zm9_JWoiUZc

      Do you know who has the highest percent of immegrants in the whole world? Palestinians. Go look it up.

      Israel before Oct-7 is an apartied state. They are land colonizers occupying, starving and continuely bombing and killing Palestinian people.

      How can you pretend that was the best democracy in the middle east and most moral army when the treatment, evictions, land stealing, long and unjustified random imprisonmemt without charge, killings, and oppression the Palestinians were living, before Oct-7, was worse than living in the worst oppressive dictatorships of the middleeast? More than 90% of Israel prisoners are Palestinians. An Israeli can just kill any Palesinian kid and wouldn’t get a week in jail. Go look up the 100000 of times that happened before Oct-7.

      How do you pretend the way Israel was besieging Gaza and continuely “mowing the lawn” was acceptable? Palestinians have the right to just fucking live like Israelis. Is this statement unreasonable for you? If not, then they have the right to free themselves, and the whole western world must stop the hypocracy and pretend it’s acceptable for Israel to exist the way it is. They muat sanction and isolate Israel’s government like they did to Russia until it gets it act together and just be a normal country that does not colonize and kill people from different race or religion.

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      Unbelievable that you can see all this carnage, deliberate use of non surgical engagement, calling Palestinians animals, calling leveling entire population centers “mowing the lawn”, and think they are fighting Hamas.

      They know exactly what they’re doing, they’ll tell you themselves even.

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      I would argue that someone who writes “finish them” on weapons of war has absolutely no ability to comprehend nuances like the ones you described. That or she wants to be likened to people who lack that ability. Anyway, it’s equally abysmal and she doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt you are trying to give her.

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        They were just happy to have an opportunity to make it look as though they were.

        It would be of no surprise to me if Netanyahu orchestrated Hamas’ attack.