• shiroininja@lemmy.world
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    I see this so much from my coworkers. I could never. I’d rather do without or just steal if I really need something. Credit like that is a trap. I learned that from growing up poor. I’m 36 and debt free and I’m not going back. I’m not buying every day things on credit. I can wait a few paychecks if I need to.

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      it’s scary. I work in IT and many gen Z kids leave their personal financial stuff on work computers…

      the spending/debt they are in is nuts… and it’s stupid stupid debt. one kid had $10,000 in credit card debt over 6 months of spending and was making like $100 payments on $1000s per month in spending. the spend like they make $250K a year even though they make 40K. he’s probably 23-25.

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        26 days ago

        Are you looking at their personal financial “stuff”?

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          anything that’s on your work computer is company property.

          it’s my job to look at anything on company computers.

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            Eh, no. You absolutely shouldn’t look at things you know are personal.

            What is your job title?

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              It’s in our user policy that we have the right to view anything stored on company equipment and do whatever we want with it. They are repeatedly warned not to do any personal business on company computers.

              You can’t fix stupid though. This idiot had his CC info stored in web browser. Least to say… he was fired and I was asked to review his equipment for evidence for termination. He left a fuckload of evidence… lol including his fan-fiction writing.

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                Yes of course you shouldn’t store personal information on work computers but purposefully continue reading after you discover it’s personal information is IMO very unprofessional. Do you spend all day looking through people’s computers or what?

                I would never do that even if we had a policy that allows us to do that (We probably do, I just haven’t read it yet). Doing that would be unprofessional as fuck and just fucking rude and disrespectful.

                It’s also a legal grey zone with GDPR.

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                  It’s my job to know what the fuck people are doing with our computer systems and if it’s a threat. Using work systems for personal business is grounds for termination. Revealing sensitive company information to your therapist via company email… also grounds for termination. etc.

                  Just like it’s my job to know if they are looking at porn on company computers. I live in America. GDPR doesn’t exist there and we don’t do any business in Europe.

                  I’m glad you want to protect idiots from themselves. I don’t. My job is to protect the company from idiots who are doing stupid shit they shouldn’t be doing that may lead to our systems being compromised. kid should have done his banking on his personal cell phone and he might not have been fired. we even offer out of band wi-fi for employees to do shit like that…

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                    Get a monitoring solution bruh. It’s madness to go snoop through every employees computers and email. Don’t you have anything else to do? My team are the only IT team with domain admin and global admin accounts and we have much better things to do.

                    We have information and IT security teams but I highly doubt they do the stuff you apparently spend all day doing.

                    It must be a very small business.

                    Just like it’s my job to know if they are looking at porn on company computers.

                    How is that your job? I assume you work in IT.

                    That’s a HR issue not an IT issue. It shouldn’t matter for IT if people watch porn or watch youtube all day. Let HR deal with that shit.

                    I work at a company that takes physical and cyber security quite seriously and we don’t do anything close to that.

                    Though my country is generally open to employees using corporate devices for some personal use (especially company phones, maybe not so much the computers) we even have the option of transferring out mobile numbers to the company and using our corporate phone (iPhones unfortunately) exclusively for everything in life.

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        Jesus . Did nobody ever teach the kids, if you can’t afford it, do without? (Not counting necessities of course). Like I thought the keeping up with appearances thing wasn’t that big, but I’m starting to see that it’s very real. Like the idea of debt terrifies me.

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          No. They are taught that you can’t do without and you should do whatever you can do to get it. Which means take on massive debt and worry about it later. YOLO

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            Oof. I feel like it’s my generation’s fault somehow, but I don’t think we’re old enough to have kids that are that old. Maybe it was gen X? But I just can’t see either melleniels (my brain can’t spell it right now for some reason) or gen x teaching that? But maybe I’m wrong. Or maybe it’s the greater society that instills it instead of their parents.