• Rob T Firefly@lemmy.world
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    Link to the actual post OP screenshotted: https://very.bignutty.xyz/notes/9hf13it1ced3b2za

    Screenshots of text are not the way. The crappy “hey, a text thing I want to share, let me take an accessibility-poisoning screenshot and upload that graphic file like a psychopath instead of just copy/pasting either the link to the text or the text itself like a decent human being” routine needs to die with Reddit, we have to be better than that here.

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      Screenshots of text preserve the state of the text at the time it was seen…

      Yes, it’s not good for accessibility but it’s a good way to quickly capture a moment in time.

      (I would recommend perhaps also copy/pasting a synopsis for people who might be vision impaired etc)

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          That’s kinda what I was saying? Include the snapshot but also the original text body as a copy/paste for those using screen-readers or other such tools

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        Also, modern tools are getting pretty good at dealing with text embedded in images. It isn’t ideal but this partially mitigates a large concern (accessibility). Rather than complaining about people taking screenshots maybe pressure should be placed on the screenshot tools, and image formats, to better capture the raw text exactly and embed it as extra data along with the image.

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      Screenshots stay with time, I hate it when I arrive a bit later and the link is already dead and I have no idea what it said.

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        …except when the image hoster suddenly dies and 10000s of Screenshots suddenly vanish from the internet and all howto’s etc are killed by it

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          That’s why you shouldn’t use external image hosters but embed the picture the normal way. Then if the lemmy instance dies then the screenshot dies with it but not seperatelly.

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            well, often webprojects don’t have that much money and hosting communitys who post a lot of images, videos etc. costs a lot of money. because that a lot of users use imagehosters to bypass this issue.

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          Image in the post, text+link in the description, everyone happy.

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        Copy/pasted text stays with time too and doesn’t have the issues that pictures of text do. Also hosted images disappear all the time.

      • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.world
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        So copy/paste the text, and link the original.

        In the case of this post, the ability to go to the original and learn the further info added by the author in subsequent posts is of use.

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                No, but everyone can access and read that in their own choice of viewing tech without problem, even on very large or very small monitors, even through automatic translation apps, even in an audio screen reader or a braille interface.

                An important part of the fuel of the exodus from Reddit to here was Reddit deliberately shitting on users who happen to have special accessibility needs. Lemmy - the software and the user community - needs to be better than that to earn its place as rightful successor.

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            We should copy paste the text, post a screenshot as an attachment, and a link, and then carve the screenshot into a stone tablet to be put on display in the basement of the british national history museum

            holy shit guys, just post the data however the fuck is easiest

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        And then play that video on your screen, take a video of that screen with your phone while shaking the phone around and mumbling over the audio, and upload that phone video to TikTok.

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      Accessibility should be enhanced to read text from image. Enduser shouldn’t care about how he should share an information. How hard is it to read a font from a text?

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          If the source is already in text (perfectly accessible), why should we make an image out of it? That’s like saying let’s email a document, but instead of the original doc file, let’s print them out, scan, and then send the pdf of those images instead.

          That is not a correct analogy because printing and scanning a document is less convenient than just forwarding the email. But here, most people are comfortable taking a ss and share it. That’s what they’re learnt. So they keep doing that.

          My man, you just don’t know how crappy OCR can be with non-latin alphabet writing systems, especially Chinese characters.

          That’s why the OCR tools have to be improved. They should atleast be able to read the top 10 most used fonts in a language without issues.