Because I don’t want anything you have, but trying to build a whole barter chain where we trade everything in sequence until everyone gets something they want is wildly impractical. As described in my first example.
And yes, today I pay a dude money and he does the thing. I don’t have to clean his gutters so he’ll agree to knit me a sweater.
If you go all the way to the start of this thread, it began with “Money shouldn’t exist. Hope that helps!”. So that’s what I’m arguing against. Money will be reinvented because it serves a very real purpose.
Also if something happens 1% of the time you still have to account for it.
And “I can do the thing. I don’t really enjoy it. For some incentive, I’ll do it” is more than 1% of what’s happening in life.
Money predates capitalism. The reasons why it was originally invented remain. Once your favors have any complexity at all, someone’s going to have the obvious idea of “why don’t we abstract this?”
Money does predate Capitalism, correct. Never said it didn’t.
Read the text I linked, you’re assuming I am referring to an anarchic system of favors and not a system where the government produces and provides pretty much everything via planning.
Sure. You can help your neighbor for free, a favor, whatever you want. You could also put in an order officially.
That “whatever you want” is immediately going to turn into tokens, which are currency. That’s almost certainly how it happened originally.
“I’ll do this for you if you give me some shiny rocks, then I can go to the city and trade them for a cool hat” or whatever.
Why would you need to tokenize things with a large unofficial market of sole proprietors? Is that how you get your services done today?
Because I don’t want anything you have, but trying to build a whole barter chain where we trade everything in sequence until everyone gets something they want is wildly impractical. As described in my first example.
And yes, today I pay a dude money and he does the thing. I don’t have to clean his gutters so he’ll agree to knit me a sweater.
Why do you think money came to be originally?
That’s not what people are advocating for. 99% of producion would be handled by the government, you’re pretending the 1% would actually be 100%.
If you go all the way to the start of this thread, it began with “Money shouldn’t exist. Hope that helps!”. So that’s what I’m arguing against. Money will be reinvented because it serves a very real purpose.
Also if something happens 1% of the time you still have to account for it.
And “I can do the thing. I don’t really enjoy it. For some incentive, I’ll do it” is more than 1% of what’s happening in life.
Money has a real purpose in Capitalism that is entirely unnecessary in a developed Socialist system.
1% being favors doesn’t mean you need money.
I suggest you read Critique of the Gotha Programme for information on why Money itself should be eliminated eventually.
Money predates capitalism. The reasons why it was originally invented remain. Once your favors have any complexity at all, someone’s going to have the obvious idea of “why don’t we abstract this?”
Money does predate Capitalism, correct. Never said it didn’t.
Read the text I linked, you’re assuming I am referring to an anarchic system of favors and not a system where the government produces and provides pretty much everything via planning.