A leftist that points out inequality inherent in the system? What a strange thing to encounter on Lemmy. I’m positively flummoxed as to how this came about.
No, she won’t. And hopefully I voted for viable candidates down the sheet because I’ll have lost that vote.
She’ll be president if enough voters to overwhelm the EC’s red shift vote for her. Which will not happen with FPTP. There are 46 examples of this not happening over a couple hundred of years. Including her, specifically, in 2012 and 2016.
It isn’t a “both sides” thing, it is a class thing. The wealthy never face consequences unless they personally perform some heinous act, and even then it isn’t guaranteed.
I sympathize with being sick of bothsidesers, but I don’t think that’s what I’m doing here. The justice system is unfair as it is. Dems aren’t doing enough but Repubs want to make it even worse. If youths came out to vote in every election we wouldn’t be stuck with these two choices, but there is very clearly just one sane choice.
Every election. The parties cannot count on the youth vote. They both seem to be acting like they don’t care what youths want. I am assuming a correlation there. Unfortunately it’s correlating in both directions.
The youth vote isn’t a specific set of people. Its a continuous cohort of new voters entering the pool. And the parties are deeply wedded to the youth vote, in so far as they need to get their hooks in early in order to guarantee consistent turnout in later generations. Big investments in social media by partisan groups - from TPUSA to Joe Rogan sponsors - are predicated on winning over young people to right wing ideology. And Republicans consistently have some of the youngest elected party members because they aggressively recruit young people into leadership
What can’t be counted on is the liberal party to engage with younger voting cohorts. You don’t see Democrats engaging with youth activist movements. You don’t see Democrats courting the college vote. You don’t see Democrats attempting to seat ideological 20-year-olds in city councils or state legislatures and build up the back bench. You don’t see the national party investing in professional party workers under the age of 30. Liberalism is the party of stoggie old dinosaurs telling their grandkids to shut up and vote for them, then getting mad when they only win 60-70% of the youth vote and still lose.
When liberal democrats burn out in their 30s and 40s, because they’ve been lied to and betrayed over and over again, all we get from the liberal party is “The other guys are worse, though!” As though that shit was ever a winning strategy.
How on earth are trying to both sides this lmfao
Learn to read
A leftist that points out inequality inherent in the system? What a strange thing to encounter on Lemmy. I’m positively flummoxed as to how this came about.
If you ask anyone from .ml, I’m not even a leftist. I am pretty dead set against Donald, whereas they (and Bibi) want Donald elected.
Theu dont want Trump elected. They want Biden to actually do something to stop the genocide.
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Jill Stein wants no war. your accusation is pure bad faith.
Jill Stein is not going to be president. Your assertion is in bad faith or ignorance.
She’ll be President if you vote for her
No, she won’t. And hopefully I voted for viable candidates down the sheet because I’ll have lost that vote.
She’ll be president if enough voters to overwhelm the EC’s red shift vote for her. Which will not happen with FPTP. There are 46 examples of this not happening over a couple hundred of years. Including her, specifically, in 2012 and 2016.
you literally accused people who said they want Jill Stein to win of lying and actually wanting another candidate to win. that’s bad faith.
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Leftists carrying water for fascists? Definitely not a strange thing to encounter both on Lemmy and in history.
Some of us have moved beyond team sports and are now questioning the game.
It isn’t a “both sides” thing, it is a class thing. The wealthy never face consequences unless they personally perform some heinous act, and even then it isn’t guaranteed.
Maybe you shoukd, Please re read his last paragraph
I sympathize with being sick of bothsidesers, but I don’t think that’s what I’m doing here. The justice system is unfair as it is. Dems aren’t doing enough but Repubs want to make it even worse. If youths came out to vote in every election we wouldn’t be stuck with these two choices, but there is very clearly just one sane choice.
They did, and their candidate lost anyway. Too many olds spread across too many districts.
Maybe if you can convince a few hundred thousand Youngs to move to Wyoming…
Every election. The parties cannot count on the youth vote. They both seem to be acting like they don’t care what youths want. I am assuming a correlation there. Unfortunately it’s correlating in both directions.
The youth vote isn’t a specific set of people. Its a continuous cohort of new voters entering the pool. And the parties are deeply wedded to the youth vote, in so far as they need to get their hooks in early in order to guarantee consistent turnout in later generations. Big investments in social media by partisan groups - from TPUSA to Joe Rogan sponsors - are predicated on winning over young people to right wing ideology. And Republicans consistently have some of the youngest elected party members because they aggressively recruit young people into leadership
What can’t be counted on is the liberal party to engage with younger voting cohorts. You don’t see Democrats engaging with youth activist movements. You don’t see Democrats courting the college vote. You don’t see Democrats attempting to seat ideological 20-year-olds in city councils or state legislatures and build up the back bench. You don’t see the national party investing in professional party workers under the age of 30. Liberalism is the party of stoggie old dinosaurs telling their grandkids to shut up and vote for them, then getting mad when they only win 60-70% of the youth vote and still lose.
When liberal democrats burn out in their 30s and 40s, because they’ve been lied to and betrayed over and over again, all we get from the liberal party is “The other guys are worse, though!” As though that shit was ever a winning strategy.