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    The AND paper from 2016 doesn’t seem expired, just removed from some site redesign: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27886704/ The fact that the position hasn’t changed in more than 13 years should be an indication that it still holds. You don’t need to prove that water is wet every few years to make sure it’s still a valid stance.

    The NHS respects your life choices, and makes recommendations for nutrients based on those choices.

    Any talk about nutrition will be prefaced about getting certain nutrients. If omnivore diets had no risk of deficiencies we wouldn’t need dietitians. Any talk about an omnivore diet will be prefaced with fiber, which is easier to be lacking in that diet.

    I never claimed to be a nutritionist. I was just challenging the outdated notion that you NEED to be an omnivore to have a healthy diet.

    Vystopia is just a side effect. If I had a cent for every depressing thing in life I would be a millionaire. Dealing with depressing shit is just part of life. Suggesting that someone shouldn’t become vegan because they might get depressed is ridiculous. The same could be said about politics, gay rights, abortion rights etc, etc. Just live in a monastery, don’t care about anything worldly and you won’t be depressed. And veganism isn’t just about being depressed. There is a complementary effect of happiness from feeling connected to and respecting every living being in the world.

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            10 months ago

            So it was the same position since '87 to '21 through 5 renewals, but since there isn’t a new one since 2021 it’s not valid anymore? Did they state this position was not valid anymore?

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              10 months ago

              it expired.

              it is not the position of the academy at this time. you can find all their current positions on their website, and some of them explicitly recommend dairy, meat, and fish.

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      11 months ago

      I was just challenging the outdated notion that you NEED to be an omnivore to have a healthy diet.

      some people might need to tho.

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        11 months ago

        Of course. I have a friend who is allergic to most vegetable protein. She would be in ER if she ate a tomato. Of course she can never be vegan. But most people have no health risks of the sorts. I don’t have any data on this, but I would bet on 90% of the population having absolutely no issue with a vegan diet. The “not all people can” argument is moot.

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          11 months ago

          you don’t know what anyone else needs and it’s patronizing for you to try to tell them you know their needs better than they do themselves.

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            Look I’m not telling anyone what they NEED, I said that they can consider a vegan diet because X, Y, Z reasons. You keep twisting my words and offering zero interesting arguments. But since you seem to be a little insecure little troll on an anti vegan campaign judging by your post history, I will not waste any more time responding to you.

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              10 months ago

              I’m responding directly to what you’re saying. calling me insecure, antivegan, or a troll doesn’t make what I’ve said untrue. I’m none of those things but I will tell you what I am: I’m right.