• Monomate@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    This is just a conversation on the internet. We aren’t here presenting an undergraduate thesis. I try to limit things to empirical evidence and appeal to common experiences between us so I don’t have to make everyone read a huge wall of text. That’s why I said we can just agree to disagree. There’s nothing wrong about it. 👽

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      Again if it is a “well-known fact,” it should take you no effort whatsoever to provide evidence for it. That’s how “well-known facts” work. It’s a well-known fact that the Earth is round and I can show you evidence with about two seconds of Googling.

      You are unable to, which suggests you were lying about it being a “well-known fact.”

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        Okay, if a Google search will make you believe me, here goes:

        Does USA university students and faculty have a left-leaning bias?

        Most search results confirm what I said. And remember: this is not an exact science, but a subjective assessment. Certainly there are university students that didn’t notice that bias because their institution was more politically neutral, or said person was not enrolled in humanities courses so the political activism was not very close to their day-to-day lives. But, in general, the bias is real and is only getting more intense as political polarization is on the rise globally.

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          I like how you think just providing those search results prove something is a “well-known fact” rather than just something people believe.

          Is the problem that you don’t understand the concept of evidence?

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            6 months ago

            The fact is so well-known that a simple Google search gives multiples articles confirming it. You suggested this criteria yourself. 🤔

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              a simple Google search gives multiples articles confirming it.

              Then you can easily pick one and show me the evidence.

              Remember, this is your claim:

              It’s a well known fact that western universities have a left-leaning bias. And by extension, a pro-Hamas and/or pro-Palestine bias.

              So, pick the site which shows evidence for this claim. Quote the evidence.

              You haven’t been able to do so thus far.

              Also, it is a lie that I suggested a Google search was my criterion. Not one thing I said even implies it.

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                It’s a well-known fact that the Earth is round and I can show you evidence with about two seconds of Googling.

                You established that a well-known fact like the Earth being round is easy to prove in mere seconds by Googling. I did exactly what you suggested and the search results are plentiful with links in the first page confirming that there’s a left-leaning bias in USA universities. In the suggested images they even list survey results showing most students lean left.

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                  Yes. With two seconds of Googling, I can show you evidence.

                  Such as this:

                  A planet is round because of gravity. A planet’s gravity pulls equally from all sides. Gravity pulls from the center to the edges like the spokes of a bicycle wheel. This makes the overall shape of a planet a sphere, which is a three-dimensional circle.

                  https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/planets-round/en/

                  You have shown me no evidence whatsoever. At this point, it’s clear it was just a lie.