• ours@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    This must cost YouTube a fortune doing additional processing and reduced flexibility. They are going to hurt themselves and blockers will find a way.

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      4 months ago

      There’s already extensions that somehow skip sponsorship sections, so it won’t even take that long.

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        4 months ago

        That’s “crowdsourced”, i.e. manually done by volunteers on per-video basis.

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        That’s actually hurt by this because it uses timestamps supplied by users to work. But now they are off because the ads are of variable length. We can just hope that YouTube keeps the ability to link to a specific timestamp because then it has to calculate the difference and that can be used by Sponsorblock and adblockers alike.

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          But then those ads either need to be skippable or not skippable with some kind of metadata which can be used against it by injected scripts.

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      Not really. They can precompute those and inject it in an MP4 file so long as the settings match and it’s inserted right before an i-frame so that it doesn’t corrupt b-frames. They already reencode everything with their preferred settings, so they only need to encode the ads for those same settings they already do. Just needs to be spliced seamlessly.

      But YouTube uses DASH anyway, it’s like HLS, the stream is served in individual small chunks so it’s even easier because they just need to add chunks of ads where they can add mismatched video formats, for the same reason it’s able to seamlessly adjust the quality without any audio glitches.

      Ad blockers will find a way.

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        Re-encoding is one thing, but ads are more or less supposed to be dynamic based on user location and likely some other data to target them.

        Offloading that to the client made a lot of sense but now they have to do this server-side, they have very smart people working on making this as efficient as possible using tricks you’ve mentioned and more but it is still more effort than before. All for something that will likely be circumvented eventually.

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          All of that targeting data lives on Google’s servers already. Your computer isn’t trying to figure out who you are and what you like each ad play, Google already knows who you are when your browser makes a request for a video. Everything you are talking about is already server-side.

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            4 months ago

            The data is but the client gets the specific bits from a CDN. Now they need a server to stitch these server side and stream it to you.

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      4 months ago

      Every bit of effort and resourcing they spend on this returns revenue directly. Which is more than they can probably say for a lot of things they do. And they’re smart enough to know that they can’t eliminate blocking, just make it harder and harder so that fewer and fewer people do it.