• SnerkRabbledauber@lemmy.today
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    5 months ago

    If that third track were an option the trolley problem would never have existed. If there really is a third track in the real-life situation, then the trolley problem is not a good analogy of that problem.

    Sadly, in this election there is no third track and we are forced into choosing the lesser of two evils.

    If you want a third track, push for ranked choice voting!

    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      5 months ago

      the joke is that you are actively removing yourself from the situation by making a decision to do nothing. In essence, that track has no trolley on it, and no people on it, meaning nobody dies… As long as you don’t look over your shoulder.

      • III@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        The real joke is how the “no choice” position is such extreme nonsense that even something as dumbed down as a meme can’t make any part of it seem logical.

        • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          5 months ago

          it’s not explicitly nonsense, one of the decisions that you can make in the trolley problem is doing nothing, this is the equivalent of doing nothing in a comedic fashion.

      • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        Standing at the lever, close your eyes real hard and wish there was a third choice as you hope someone else makes that choice for you

      • archomrade [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        In the same way ‘would you rather’ is meant to force a decision between two unacceptable choices, the trolly problem is meant to highlight the morality of refusing to choose (and ensuring the worse decision).

        The third rail is just redundant.

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          5 months ago

          In the same way ‘would you rather’ is meant to force a decision between two unacceptable choices, the trolly problem is meant to highlight the morality of refusing to choose (and ensuring the worse decision).

          in a really reductive sense, yes. The trolley problem is at it’s heart, a question of whether being involved in an atrocity is better than being uninvolved in an atrocity.

        • JacksonLamb@lemmy.world
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          5 months ago

          This is the problem with the trolley problem.

          If it were replaced with, say, being told to shoot one group or another by a sadistic guard, the possibility of refusing to choose would be more obvious in terms of what it means morally.

          The trolley is an inanimate object. It isn’t making choices.

          Political parties are more like the sadistic guard. They are making choices.

    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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      5 months ago

      Very well, I shall push for it by

      • voting the same way regardless if the candidate supports it, and

      • suddenly participating in direct action, because we weren’t already doing that.

    • HANN@sh.itjust.works
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      5 months ago

      There literally is a third option that will be printed on most of not all ballots. Rank choice voting is huge but people should be willing to vote earnestly. Nobody wants to be the one to make the change and wants the world to change first but that’s not how it works.