• Rustmilian@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    Again I’m not fucking saying it’s a common issue. Now you’re just misunderstanding what I’m saying in bad faith.
    Again I’m merely asking how you feel about these specific individuals who go to far, and in this instance beyond the bounds of “kink” during public marches.
    But you keep fucking dodging the question with your irrelevant ass bullshit strawman argument, instead of actually answering my fucking question.

    My point is that you seem to be worried about an imaginary issue that

    I’m not worried about shit, I’m asking for your personal opinion on these very specific cases to push the discourse into careful consideration of how such cases effect the causes pushing for social change.

    Just because it makes you uncomfortable or you don’t consider it LGBTQ doesn’t mean it needs to be changed.

    Not even close to what I said, again this is not about people celebrating kinks or have their tits and ass out, I do not give a shit about such things.

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      14 days ago

      My personal opinion is that I don’t care about people displaying kinkwear within the bounds of the law, and I think it’s ok to bend the rules a little further than usual during a pride parade. I don’t think parades about sexual identity should cater to kids and families.

      Unless you put a clear definition on “too far”, then that is my answer.

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        13 days ago

        Here, I’ll make it more clear to you by defining what is not too far first.
        In 2023 a bunch of nude cyclists were present during the public Seattle Pride Parade, while they were fully naked, half covered, etc. Their behavior is very clearly artistic expression and not inappropriate, as they were wearing body paint and commiting to other artistic representations of nudity no different from a body paint artist that are also very public in Seattle, nor were they engaging in inappropriate behavior or attempting to induce sexual arousal. In the same vein, wearing a rubber suit can also very much fall into the same category.
        Does that make it more clear?
        The specific cases are those intentionally engaging in behavior that can’t be defined as artistic expression and can deeply harm the overall movement, such as the rare cases of inappropriate touching/unwanted touching.
        Imo, strict codes of conduct such as those used by Nudist organizations during their public events in other more lax countries should be used, not only to discourage the behavior but to also protect the integrity of the events and movements when such cases do occur. The mentioned Seattle Pride Parade for example had no official code of conduct, luckily no such case occured during this particular event.