• yeather@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    In the entirety of human history communism has never worked. Not once has any society been able to work on the ideals of it.

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      It’s impossible to uncouple society from capitalism. It’s not a possibility, but it definitely could work. Maybe capitalism just needs longer than communism to fail?

      The wealthiest country in the world has unaffordable healthcare and homelessness, how is that capitalism working?

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      1 year ago

      Yeah, because the US bombs them or funds terror cells or blockades their economy.

      Cold War. Communism was hunted and destroyed whereever it arose.

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        If communism was so strong it wouldn’t have to worry about capitalist intervention. You just proved my point of communism / socialism being weak if the apparent enemy is easily able to wreck you economy and implode your country it is not a strong system.

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            In terms of global politics, yes. Every country has fallen back into capitalism in some form, the closest I can think of being truly, actually communist were the Spanish Anarchists based out of Barcelona during the Spanish Civil War. If you would like to read about them I recommend George Orwell’s “Homage to Catalonia.” Everyone made the same amount, they called each other comrade regardless of rank, etc. They did not last long though, taken out by their own democratic allies during the Civil War.

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              I disagree. Countries controlled by communist parties today have retreated from socialism by enacting market reforms, but they haven’t fallen. A fallen revolution wouldn’t bother to call itself communist anymore.

              China, in particular, seems to be on a good trajectory and has made a lot of progress towards socialism. There’s a reason they tried harder than pretty much every other country on Earth to save their people during the pandemic, despite how much that might have hurt their economy.

              China isn’t communist, but it’s progressive and they’re getting there. The revolution just isn’t over yet 😘

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                China is in no way shape or form socialist lmao. They’re just another flavor of authoritarian capitalist. If you really think the PRC will every make any meaningful attempts to improve or become more progressive then you are very delusional. The PRC is probably the farthest from progressive you can get. It’s a brutal and unforgiving regime.

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                  Zero COVID proves China is literally different than every other capitalist nation on Earth. Even if you don’t believe the official data, the excess death rate (i.e. something they can’t hide) shows they beat pretty much everyone other than extreme outliers like New Zealand.