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      Nope. It’s literally impossible to become and remain a billionaire without a ton of abusive behavior.

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          Yeah. Do you have any idea how much societal damage money hoarding does across the world?

          Tens of millions of people dying needlessly every year from lack of resources hoarded by a few people who’ll never be able to spend it all.

          And that’s not even getting into all the underpaid and overworked people who have acted as anonymous stepping stones on his path to obscene overabundance.

          Or the fact that the richest 10% in the world, which includes all billionaires, are responsible for 48 times as many tons of CO2 per capita as the other 90%

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            I wouldn’t count Mr Beast as abusive. But have it your way.

            He just got rich because he’s very good at what he’s doing. He didn’t have to abuse anyone for that. Maybe you are not good enough to be as rich as he is. Have you considered that?

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              He just got rich because he’s very good at what he’s doing. He didn’t have to abuse anyone for that

              Bullshit. You don’t become a billionaire by just being good at what you’re doing. You seem to not grasp the enormous difference between being successful and being one of the 3000 or so richest people on the planet.

              Just like you don’t become a millionaire by working really hard and well at a paper route, you don’t became a billionaire without doing a lot of sleazy and selfish stuff to amass more wealth than would otherwise be possible.

              Besides, even if you hypothetically COULD become a billionaire by ethical means only, keeping that much unneeded wealth in a world where artificial scarcity is killing millions is in itself extremely unethical.

              Maybe you are not good enough to be as rich as he is. Have you considered that?

              Ah, the old “you’re just jealous” adage of the worshippers of unethical success 🙄

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                You’re just framing people without actually knowing them. You probably never talked to some of those. You probably never talked to MrBeast either.

                Like my grandma who worked 60 hour weeks for 30 years as a weever and living in poor conditions long after the war eventhough she wouldn’t have to. She did all of that to save up 10 years to buy land and build a house. Starting from nothing as a war refugee from (now) poland. Everyone in our family did it that way and she outlived everyone at 91, which means she inherited all the homes. She is no billionair of course but these homes amount to quiet something these days with the high property prices and people might call her wealthy for that.

                However, this doesn’t make her a cutthroat. She and her family worked extremely hard in bad post-war conditions and got lucky to outlive everyone.

                Hearing you say these things is a disgrace to my grandma and to everyone who is like her. To honest people doing hard work and getting a bit of luck. If that solves your world view then good for you. But you don’t need to say these things on the internet.

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                  You’re just framing people without actually knowing them.

                  I don’t need to know them to know the harm of their actions.

                  my grandma who worked 60 hour weeks for 30 years as a weever and living in poor conditions

                  Was NOT a billionaire or anything even remotely comparable. I don’t have anything against people who work hard and honestly achieve wealth of non-absurd proportions like her.

                  However, this doesn’t make her a cutthroat.

                  Again, you can work hard without being cutthroat about it. Not so with becoming and remaining a BILLIONAIRE.

                  Hearing you say these things is a disgrace to my grandma and to everyone who is like her. To honest people doing hard work and getting a bit of luck.

                  No. If anything, the disgrace to her and everyone like her, who achieve wealth and success honestly, is to compare them to billionaires.

                  As I expected, you have no understanding of the vast difference between millions and billions, so here’s a visual aid:

                  The first two, and even multiples of them are within the limits of “hard work and a bit of luck”. The obscene hoard that is the third isn’t.

                  If you still don’t understand it, it’s probably because you don’t WANT to understand or are pathologically UNABLE to, in which point there’s no point continuing to waste my time explaining what is obvious to a third grader but not an adult with decades of brainwashing to erase all sense of proportion.