I follow this person on Twitter, and I’m sure she means this literally, and I’m OK with it.

  • HexBroke [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Shoes off inside (and whether barefoot or socks/slippers is acceptable) varies widely by culture and time period.

    Plenty of White people don’t wear shoes in the house and conversely plenty of people outside countries who wear shoes in the home.

    I don’t wear shoes in the house but I don’t think there’s much validity around cleanliness unless you’ve got a shower by the front door and are doing a full wash and change (and even then, I’m not convinced this would make a positive difference in most scenarios)

    I did have a friend growing up whose family would literally walk dog shit inside the house - maybe this is what people are thinking of? Surely even more of a reason to leave your shoes on there

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      I don’t wear shoes in the house but I don’t think there’s much validity around cleanliness

      uhhhh

      you definitely track in dirt and dust and whatever’s on the ground outside (snow, broken glass, dog shit, road salt,), if you wear the same shoes outside and in.

      It doesn’t necessarily make the person dirtier but it definitely makes the house dirtier IMO. Not by like, a ton, if you clean regularly its probably fine esp if you don’t have carpet, but I still am not a huge fan. The “tracking in bits of broken glass” thing actually happened to me recently. Bunch of car break-ins on my street and a few days later I start finding pieces on the ground in my apartment.

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        I am fortunate enough to not have to deal with snow, broken glass, dog shit, road salt etc. I was pretty shocked at how dirty some cities were when I went to the US.

        I do a full change when coming back from walks (~ hikes ~) because I have indoor cats and who knows what I’d be tracking in.

        I also have a Chinese robo vac/mop that gets heavy usage because the cats like to drag their food outside their bowels and leave bits of crusty meat on the hardwood floors.

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          The worst part is my city is pretty clean for the US lol. But yeah snow is just unavoidable if the climate is right for it, everything’s getting a bit wet at least. (unless you are a bougie MFer with indoor parking and snow removal service and basically go from house to car to office without stepping foot outside, which some people do.)

          And besides a few times a year to clear grime and rotten leaves and dirt and keep the storm drains flowing, the streets don’t really get actively cleaned here except by random passers by, so those accumulate some level of things like broken glass, bits of trash, etc. Dog poop is not a common problem for me, but for people who have dogs and aren’t perfect at cleaning up their yards after them its much more common.

          I don’t know what level of street cleaning other countries have, or whether they just have a more conscientious populace, but yeah parts of the US are filthy

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            I live pretty centrally so these workers are out every morning at around 4-5am

            Suburbia gets cleaned every few weeks, but increasingly less with budget cuts

            I am a bougie motherfucker but to the extent that I can walk to work

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              we get a bit of stuff like that in the central business district, but its more like low wage workers going out and picking up trash than a full sweeping of streets/sidewalks. outside downtown its what I mentioned before. to some extent its because of low density, but also just public services are a joke in the US.

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      I don’t wear shoes in the house but I don’t think there’s much validity around cleanliness unless you’ve got a shower by the front door and are doing a full wash and change (and even then, I’m not convinced this would make a positive difference in most scenarios)

      Mud and stones very easily get stuck to shoes, and tracking in water is a dick move too.

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        When it rains here I’m pouring out my shoes

        Surely if your shoes are wet or muddy you take them off before you go in? That goes beyond “always take off your shoes” surely