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WIBTA for losing empathy for my traumatized husband

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Trigger Warnings: emotional abuse, sexual coercion, exploitation, possible misogyny


WIBTA to leave my husband?: March 31, 2024

AITAH to leave my husband, then come home, and now want to leave again?

I (24F) and my Husband (28M) have been together for 4 years and I am starting to doubt the marriage. My husband and I have been married for 2 years in June. We have had a long history of fights and disrespect from both sides. Here is our most recent problemā€¦

About 2 months ago my husband had come home from work and I had started complaining about I canā€™t work full time and take care of everything else. I work as a nurse, granted from home. I am also responsible for most of the chores. My husband is suppose to take the garbage out, clean dog poop, and brush dogs a few times a week. He does garbage a couple times a week and dog poop once a week at best. I take care of dinner, groceries, laundry, animals (6 of them), and am the primary caregiver to his daughter when she is with us (week on/week off). My husband has his own company, which we started together.

Anyways, I was complaining and he was tired of it and he kicked me out of our house. I was shocked as it didnā€™t even seem to esiclte like that. He called it his house. Days go by and I end up coming home. My husband stated we both needed therapy individually so we can heal from our past traumas, I agreed and have done therapy before. I made an appointment a few days later for myself.

About 6 days later we got in a fight because he was mad about my car being dirty. We had just had our two GSD in there and again I am the main transport for his 7 yo daughter as I take her to and from school. I thought it was ridiculous and we got into a fight where I was sobbing and he was reconsidering the relationship. I almost left that day too. 3-4 weeks after that, another fight about intimacy.

I have been struggling with libido and we agreed to 3x week, which I have been doing. He tried telling me I was not fulfilling this promise, though I was. I said its a waste of my f**ing time then. He was appalled I said this and hung up on me. He wanted to talk about it a few days later and I told him I feel like youā€™re mad and I am not in the right head space. He said too bad and proceeded to tell me I ruined sx for him and he can never have it again with me. I ended up taking accountability for what I said and apologize, he didnā€™t do the same until much later.

I then told him I was going to leave if he did not go to therapy. I had been going for at least a month at this point. Typically, I wouldnā€™t use an ultimatum but about a year ago he gave me one. I was in the worst mental space I had been in and granted I had been infair and snappy and mean to my husband. We got in a fight and he yelled at me while I was crying and said if I didnā€™t get help he would leave; I got help that day. Well, a month later and he had not gotten therapy and then said I was trying to play victim and manipulate him. So, I left. I came back after 3 days. He agreed to marriage counseling, I made the appointment. We have fought every day since I have been home. Things donā€™t feel right. Would I be the asshole if I leftā€¦againā€¦?

Relevant Comments

Any_Put3216: Nta. Pack everything itā€™s important to you and that you want and leave. If you want the animals take the animals and take whatever you want. But again you leave. I have a feeling heā€™s only using you to take care of his daughter? When you guys have most of your fights and heā€™s kicked you out was she there or not

OOP: Thankfully she was not there when he kicked me out. She hasnā€™t been here for most of the fights.

OOP on why her husband had his demands for love

OOP: He said he needed it 3x a week to feel love. I agreed.

I thought the sex thing was suss too. Especially because he has trauma with cheating and is always accusing me of cheating. His insta explore page is full of half nude models. He said he clicked on something once and now itā€™s on there.

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WIBTA for losing empathy for my traumatized husband: May 21, 2024 (2 months later)

Hi Reddit,

My Husband (28 M) and I (24 F) have been together for 4 years. Since the start, he has been insecure about cheating. He was viciously cheated on in his previous relationship and blames it on that. I have never cheated on him nor has he ever found anything to even assume I was cheating. I use to be empathetic towards his insecurities as I have been cheated on too. However, for the past 2 years, I have been loosing said empathy.

After pulling my phone records and going through all my contacts last summer, he went to therapy for a month or two and his episodes of accusing me have decreased, but not stopped. I have been in therapy since January and he is the one who brought up going to individual therapy for both of us. However, he has yet to get back into therapy and he continues to accuse me of cheating. We are also in couples counseling, which hasnā€™t necessarily been overly helpful. He keeps saying that he has gotten better with accusations so I should just be more patient with his since he is my Husband.

Our last fight was a few nights ago. We were being intimate (which is a struggle too since I have low libido) and he said my breast tasted like wintergreen Copenhagen and then he found/tasted a piece on me and accused me of cheating. This obviously ruined our intimacy and he kept asking for an explanation. I told him I did not have one besides I was hiking in the forest earlier that day and maybe had a pine needle on me. He didnā€™t accept this answer and went to bed upset. However, he didnā€™t bring it back up.

When we discussed this in couples therapy, I acknowledge that he didnā€™t escalate this fight and didnā€™t bring it back up, which was an improvement form his past episodes. He still accused me in therapy and said I couldā€™ve been with another man in the forest. Our therapist pointed out that this was kinda silly and suggested that if I was cheating, I probably wouldā€™ve showered. My husband said true, but said he has learned not to trust people.

I am so tired of being accused. It hurts so bad and he doesnā€™t acknowledge the pain it causes. He also doesnā€™t get help for the issues and has excuses as to why he hasnā€™t done therapy yet. He is upset at me because I told him I no longer have empathy for him and this issue. AITAH?

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Update #1: June 14, 2024 (3 weeks later)

UPDATE:

Hi Reddit, thank you all for you advice and responses. I greatly appreciate and read each one. Well, here is an update.

A few nights ago he had asked where I had gone, I was confused as I had not gone anywhere. He proceeds to say my car was backed in the driveway (I donā€™t back in unless I have groceries) and now is pulled in. I said I didnā€™t go anywhere, he thought my answers were weird and I was acting weird. But, he left it alone.

Later that night I am initiating hand holding and cuddling, it is late and I say I am going to bed and I love you. He hesitated to give me goodnight kisses but he did it anyways. A few moments later, he goes to take a showerā€¦at 10pm at night, which he hasnā€™t done beforeā€¦I assume he is taking care of business himself. During this time I say a prayer and say ā€œthis feels weird, give me a sign if this is weirdā€ā€¦When he got out of the shower, he gets back in bed and then taps me. He proceeds to say he is done and I am crushing his soul (because he says I donā€™t initiate sex and am disrespectful) and says I am selfish. In couples therapy last week, he says he only needs sex like once a month and will take other stuff as supplemental essentially. Last week (after I uncovered I was molested in therapy) I had sex with him and gave him a handjob. He says since Iā€™ve come home, I havenā€™t tried at all to give him what he needs. I am trying my hardest :/

Letā€™s not forget I take care of him, his kid, the animals, the houseā€¦Literally everything. He wants a gold star because he has helped me with dishes more and has helped more with transporting his child to/from school and now summer camp.

During couples counseling today, he said the same things and then said I was using my newly found trauma as an excuse to not have sex. He also raised his voice at the therapist and said the therapist was being biased towards me and not holding me accountable.

We kept going around in circles after therapy and I finally said I am done. I canā€™t do it anymore.

I am currently packing and crying a lot, I move into my apartment on Monday.

Guys, I am crushed. I am so sad. I am so confused. God speed.

Thank you everyone.

Relevant Comments

Eldritch-banana-3102: NTA. Enough is enough. I know we want to support our loved ones, but this sounds exhausting.

OOP: It is, I am exhausted.

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    Eldritch-banana-3102: NTA. Enough is enough. I know we want to support our loved ones, but this sounds exhausting.

    OOP: It is, I am exhausted.

    OOP gets advice that she needed to get her ducks in a row to leave her husband. Heā€™s toxic

    OOP: Youā€™re right, I keep holding out hope. Iā€™m trying to get ready to leave but IDK if Iā€™m ready. But I guess youā€™re never really ā€œreadyā€ IDK:(((

    Corfiz74: Have you actually contacted his ex and asked her about the end of the relationship? Because controlling partners sometimes lie about having been cheated on, to have an excuse to go through their partners electronics and act absolutely insane. Also, please check his phone in return, to make sure he isnā€™t projecting.

    OOP: His ex is his baby mama. I have met her and known her for awhile now. I probably wouldnā€™t believe my husband if I didnā€™t watch her ruin her recent engagement by cheating with multiple men.

    As far as projectionā€¦A few months ago his instagram explorer page was full of busty insta models. I confronted him and he apologized and said he wouldnā€™t do it again. He said he was just looking at pictures and profiles. He said he didnā€™t interact with anyone, idk.

    His explore page still has occasional lustful women. He also searched for someone who I think is a pornstar and then when I looked a few days later, his search history was cleared. So he might be. IDK

    Update #2: June 18, 2024

    Another Update:

    I went back to the house yesterday to get my animals. He was there. He tried convincing me that 6 months from now we would both be different and could make it work. I kept telling him I am done and Iā€™m so sorry. He didnā€™t want to accept it but eventually did. When he accepted it, he told me I was abandoning my family and my responsibilities. He told me I gave up on them. And he left. I got my animals and we spent our first night in the apartment.

    I feel some peace and freedom. But I also feel some sadness and guilt for leaving.

    I think this will be good though. Thank you Reddit fam, your encouragement helped me stay strong and tell him no when he tried to get me back.

    I am trying to cope with the guilt of hurting someone I loved so much.

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    asianlaracroft: Iā€™m so sorry youā€™ve had to deal with this.

    What your ex did was absolutely not ok. He cannot excuse his actions just because he was traumatized by cheating in the past. He cannot excuse flipping the narrative on you and trying to find other reasons to make you the villain.

    You deserve better.

    Please do not feel guilty for ensuring your own safety and wellbeing.

    TheBeautyDemon: He doesnā€™t feel guilty about constantly accusing you of cheating so donā€™t feel guilty leaving him and his abusive behavior behind. Heā€™s upset that you arenā€™t there to take care of him and his kid, not that he continuously hurts you with false accusations because he canā€™t be bothered to learn coping skills. Fuck this guy. Date yourself for awhile and find what you really like.

    DO NOT COMMENT IN LINKED POSTS OR MESSAGE OOPs ā€“ BoRU Rule #7 THIS IS A REPOST SUB - I AM NOT OOP