Yet.

      • dangblingus@lemmy.world
        0·
        2 years ago

        “I disagree with the bad thing, but I wish the people affected by the bad thing wouldn’t complain about it so much!”

      • JeffCraig@citizensgaming.com
        0·
        2 years ago

        I’m real tired of hearing about Lemmy and Reddit. I just want the other content that I used to consume here. I’m getting pretty tired of hearing how bad Reddit is doing.

        • wookiepedia@lemmy.world
          0·
          2 years ago

          It’s like someone coming out of an abusive relationship. Every other sentence is about the awful things they did, how good it is to be away, and did you hear about xyz thing they did.

          It’s exhausting.

      • gunnm@monero.town
        0·
        2 years ago

        That’s not how it started, Lemmy started way back from r/redditalternatives with Ellen Pao fiasco.

        • orrk@lemmy.world
          0·
          2 years ago

          it does, in the fields of exploitation sciences, also known as orthodox micro economics

        • mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          0·
          2 years ago

          Capitalism drives dependance tho. Not a socialist but capitalism is terrible as well. Lemmy is created by free software and open source software enthusiasts. This means that code is public, its for everyone, and anyone can use it woth or without modification.

          Some people think this is communism

            • dtc@lemmy.world
              0·
              2 years ago

              Community property is also a feature of capitalism (the form of it in the USA).

              Police stations, public parks, classified documents, national/state parks and conservation areas are examples.

              I think ‘community property’ is a byproduct of having a functional community.

          • newIdentity@sh.itjust.works
            0·
            2 years ago

            One of the devs has a guide on how to get into communism and which books to read on their GitHub. People think lemmy is communistic because the devs are.

            • mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              0·
              2 years ago

              One of the devs

              People have very different opinions. The free software dev communities consist of many weird people as well. Many autistic ones, having other mental issues, and some sane people. But in the end all that matters is the software that they create. They are open and visible. Thoose people can’t be corrupt like the proprietary corporations(facebook, google, reddit) as the anyone can see what the software exactly does. If the software does the job without tracking or doing malicious attempts on you like facebook or google, then its really good

          • galloog1@lemmy.world
            0·
            2 years ago

            A robust and non-ideological non-profit sector is key to any form of healthy capitalist system. That should be an agreeable statement to anyone regardless of if they like or hate capitalism.

            • DarthBueller@lemmy.world
              0·
              2 years ago

              There are two main reasons that evangelicals oppose government social services. One: Communism bad (well, “socialism bad” now because they have to poison the well against European democracies now that USSR is gone). Two: If the government helps people, people will be less likely to seek help from evangelical organizations, which eliminates a huge way to market Supply Side Jesus to people. Eating in to evangelicals’ ability to proselytize compellingly is therefore a non-starter.

          • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
            0·
            2 years ago

            Capitalism drives dependance tho.

            So much this. Capitalism does not provide innovative solutions. Capitalism is the idea that there is only one, universal solution to any problem: throw money at it. The fundamental objective of capitalism is to invent new and innovative problems to fit that universal solution.

        • Fazoo@lemmy.ml
          0·
          2 years ago

          It can be both. You cannot argue that Lemmy is devoid of echo chambers.

      • oce 🐆@jlai.lu
        0·
        2 years ago

        You know people can have strong ideals and still have the humanity to help people who may disagree with them? Not everything is run by political ideology.

  • rob64@startrek.website
    4·
    2 years ago

    There’s also the fact that there isn’t an algorithm trying to keep you doomscrolling by promoting commercial content.

    • Bonehead@kbin.social
      1·
      2 years ago

      I think this is a huge part of it. Occasionally I’ll surf Facebook after checking out the marketplace. Last night I saw tons of posts about that “Try that in a small town” song with tons of people claiming to support it. Just post after post of people saying they don’t see anything racist about it at all, and not a single one pointing out how showing videos of the BLM protests while singing “we take care of our own, try that in a small town” miiiiiiiight just be a little bit racist. Fortunately I usually only click on cat videos and the rare left leaning recommended posts, so I got to see one post with a picture of John Cougar Mellencamp saying something like “I sang about my small town without mentioning violence.” The post had hundreds of comments…all deleted by admins.

      Even when you try to avoid the controversy and hateful comments, the system is still designed to keep you doomscrolling. Positivity doesn’t help that…

      • DarthBueller@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 years ago

        I need eye bleach - I googled that song and wished I didn’t. You don’t even need to go to a small town - you go 5 feet outside of ANY city in US and everyone suddenly has a Southern accent and half of the people have Confederate flags. My 5 year old was with her mom in a peaceful protest and the fucking sheriff teargassed the group - she didn’t get hit by the teargas but she did almost get crushed by the panicking crowd. Fuck these people. Sorry about the “negativity.” But fuck.

    • Candelestine@lemmy.ca
      0·
      2 years ago

      This is underrated. I actually close Lemmy a lot easier and more quickly than I did reddit, it’s not hooking me with dopamine hits nearly as strongly.

      As a result, since I know I’ll probably just scroll for a few minutes at a time, I’m more willing to check in more often and toss a few upvotes and maybe a comment or two around.

    • figment@lemmy.sdf.org
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      2 years ago

      Yep this is huge. I still scroll on RiF sometimes without being logged in, and I had only ever looked at the subs I was subscribed to until now. I’m shocked by how much infuriating nonsense is being pushed by the site.

    • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
      0·
      2 years ago

      Lol right? “Right wing politics only seem popular because of bots”. No, left wing politics only seem popular on social media because old people dont use it, despite making up the majority of many populations, and often times are the only people who actually vote in elections.

      • FreeloadingSponger@lemmy.world
        0·
        2 years ago

        Left wing politics are more popular in the real world than they are in real world governments. The thing is that extremely online youth have absolutely no idea of just how far left they are.

  • gunnm@monero.town
    1·
    2 years ago

    Lemmy is a decentralized protocol not a centralized americanized political leaning social media.

    • glue_snorter@lemmy.sdfeu.org
      0·
      2 years ago

      Do you think that’s relevant? I don’t see anything about either reddit or lemmy that makes it harder for right-wingers to join. I can tell you that America does not have a monopoly on the alt-right (AfD, Brexit, etc)

      I’m keen to learn more if you’ve seen evidence in this topic. I wouldn’t know how to investigate, tbh.

      • Mastersord@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 years ago

        If the platform owners are driving discussions by manipulating feeds (Facebook) or running bots to make the platform look popular (Reddit), the right-wing presence on those platforms might not be as real as we believe.

        • tesfabpel@lemmy.worldEnglish
          0·
          2 years ago

          Well, looking at elections worldwide, the far-right isn’t as small as any extremist party should be…

      • gunnm@monero.town
        0·
        2 years ago

        On Reddit is way harder now (like I care), it is not about monopoly but a state controlled company that’s has censorship from a party.

        • glue_snorter@lemmy.sdfeu.org
          2·
          2 years ago

          state controlled company

          Umm. Do you mean Tencent? They have a minority holding. The idea that China actively controls reddit is hard to reconcile with the amount of content that is critical of China. Or let me know what you mean, if not that.

          has censorship from a party

          What censorship, what party? Do you mean t_d being shut down? Because a better explanation of that would be that the majority of civilised people finally had enough of the nasty chumps in that hole, and good riddance to them. Or let me know what you mean, if not that.

        • Resethel@lemmy.world
          1·
          2 years ago

          Just be take a short trip to any country outside the US and you’ll realize that it is indeed the case: No left in the US.

          • SCB@lemmy.world
            0·
            2 years ago

            Ah yes, like Europe?

            Spain, Italy, Turkey, Poland, Hungary? Which socialist right wing “paradise” should I visit?

            Or maybe Germany, where the AfD is gathering steam?

            Maybe actually learn about the world before spouting sayings you learned on Twitter 3 years ago.

            • Resethel@lemmy.world
              0·
              2 years ago

              Europe sure has a big resurgence in right wing politics, however a socialist left is still represented (albeit on the decline).

              I’m not stating that there is a socialist paradise somewhere, just that in the US you can hardly consider the left “left” (Overton window, yadi yada)

  • Ziro@lemmy.world
    1·
    2 years ago

    I think that the left-right dichotomy is inherently flawed. A lot of what I believe might be considered “right-leaning” or “left-leaning,” but I cannot say that I prescribe to either sort of ideology fully or with any fidelity.

    I will always be opposed to any view with a pervasive “moral” authority, and both the so-called left and right are obsessed with their own versions of this. The problem we run into is the false supposition that beliefs can be categorized on a spectrum spanning right to left (or, even more liberally, a spectrum spread across two dimensions). It has been a ridiculous notion from its inception, whenever that might have been.

    Building one’s identity (another silly notion, in general—identity itself being a frivolous construct that functions only as a fulcrum for the extortion of social power) upon a supposed spectrum is likewise ridiculous. You can be conservative or liberal, or anything, really. But those beliefs do not exist in a linear or planar dimension. They are so far removed from each other that one cannot fathom sliding incrementally from one to the next.

    And to each respective party, “left” and “right,” the other can be demonized as evil, even without full comprehension of the other. It’s all just so damned tribalistic and silly.

    • DauntingFlamingo@lemmy.ml
      0·
      2 years ago

      Hopefully some of those more talented Reddit mods decide to bring their skills to Lemmy. I’d love to see the bot hunting algorithms here

  • DRod@lemmy.world
    0·
    2 years ago

    I think that Lemmy leans left because people on the right tend to be occupied with more productive activities in their life, such as work, family, or hobbies.

    The left-leaning Lemmy tends to be people who haven’t gotten out and touched grass in a while, mainly because it is composed of former redditors.

  • wwaxwork@lemmy.world
    0·
    2 years ago

    Algorithms and AI. Rage gets views, so it’s what gets pushed to the top, so it gets even more views, so it gets pushed to the top.

    • damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works
      0·
      2 years ago

      Yeah, Lemmy has address to this by just having an incredibly glitchy algorithm (look at this post with five up votes from four months ago, it deserves to be on the front page). No one can game it because no one understands it.

  • style99@kbin.social
    0·
    2 years ago

    Among people in general who actually read comments, the left does have a distinct advantage.

  • healer_56@lemmy.world
    0·
    2 years ago

    i think its not just the bots but also that the right want their posts to be seen and want to “present” themself and their “opinions”. And i think for that, lemmy is just not visible enough, yet.

  • partypoop@lemmy.world
    0·
    2 years ago

    People will stay where they’re right, and avoid places where they’re wrong. See: Facebook groups.

  • jerdle_lemmy@lemmy.world
    0·
    2 years ago

    Nah, it’s probably because most of us left Reddit at some point, either due to banning left-wing subs or due to corporate dickery.

    The right-wingers went their way, to places like Voat, Saidit, Gab and Truth Social.