• paddirn@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Biden is well past his prime, had a shitty performance last night, hate his record on Israel, but Iā€™m still voting for him because heā€™s not Trump and Iā€™d prefer that our representative democracy continued. Moving to a braindead, functionally illiterate dictatorship just seems like an all-around worse move in every respect. Not sure about his chances, but whatever, thereā€™s not really any other alternative at this point.

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      Not American, and hate Trump and Biden equally. I say vote Trump. Heā€™s the slim shady of US politics - heā€™s only giving you things you say with your friends inside of your living room, the only difference is heā€™s got the balls to say it in front of you all and donā€™t have to sugar coat it at all.

      So instead of avoiding your discomfort of acknowledging what the US is, just vote trump and let it be clear to everyone

      Or not. It doesnā€™t matter what you do, Trump is winning anyway. You guys are going to have cheetos man for president whether you, or we, like it or not.

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        Yea the things my family who likes him says in the living room is mostly ignorant compilations of how they think the government works and dumb white trash racist garbage so no thanks.

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            So your logic is that supporting garbage is better than supporting the anti-garbage because it makes clear to everyone that you and everybody else are supporting garbage? Donā€™t you think voting Trump because ā€œhe will winā€ is a self-fulfulling prophecy?

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              This person lives in London, that pretty much says everything you need to know about whether they should be weighing in on this situation.

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              Ahh see the fatal flaw there is that you assume Biden is anti-garbage. Thatā€™s your mistake, right there. But your tribalism wonā€™t allow you to admit that. So, feel free to respond if you like, but Iā€™m out.

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            I mean with sweep generalizations like that youā€™d fit right in with the MAGA crowd, no wonder you like trump lol.

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          I work in Finance in London, lol, tankie is nice. You will keep saying what you said even after Biden shits his pants live on CNN. Do you fam, I dgaf.

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            And theyā€™d still be correct, I would prefer a man who shits himself on live television every single day, over Trump. No contest. Iā€™d vote in a potted cactus before I vote Trump. What the fuck is wrong with you.

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              I would vote for a cactus before either of them. We had a lettuce outlast a PM over here a short while ago. But you are blind if you see any fucking difference between them, dude.

              Like, I was telling my 2 year old last night he could have the dinosaur Pjā€™s or the elephant Pjā€™s for bed. But it was IMPLICIT that he is going to bed.

              Similarly, it is IMPLICIT that you and all other Americans are going to be exploited, and brown people are going to be killed, but you can pick the red guy to do it, or the blue guy.

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                Similarly, it is IMPLICIT that you and all other Americans are going to be exploited, and brown people are going to be killed, but you can pick the red guy to do it, or the blue guy.

                And that is no excuse to explicitly support the far more vocal and exploitative of the two, cheering forth the exploitation and murder because ā€œBoTh sIDeS aRe GoiNg tO DO iT!ā€ Fuck that. One side at least has the decency to appear publicly shameful of it. The other revels in it, where the cruelty is the point. If both sides are the same then Iā€™m going to pick the side with a veneer of civility because to do otherwise is to give up entirely on any hope for a future. If both sides arenā€™t the same then we all know which color is going to end up on the right side of history, that isnā€™t even a question. So regardless how IMPLICIT it is that America is fucked up shit creek, itā€™s also EXPLICIT that the average voter doesnā€™t get much of a say in it and we can only either vote for ineffective neoliberalism, or vote to actively set our own faces on fire.

                ā€œI hate the way everything is. Candidate A will make everything mostly stay the same, shitty garbage that Iā€™m used to. Candidate B will make everything that I hate several times worse, as well as present new and novel problems weā€™ve never even known about before now, as well as inventing new non-issues to pad his own pockets with culture war profits. There is no candidate C. You know, Iā€™m seriously considering voting for Candidate B.ā€ is a brain damaged take, end of story.

                Opinions like yours is what brought you BoJo and Brexit. Forgive me if I donā€™t want to entertain them across the pond.

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                  A ā€œveneer of civilityā€ is all thatā€™s needed to buy your vote? A ā€˜veneer of civilityā€™ over a fucking genocide? Listen to yourself, you sound so proud of that shit. .

                  Fuck that. You KNOW the truth about Biden and about the US political establishment and the only reason you vote for Biden is because you are too much of a coward to look reality in the face. You grab on to this fucking ā€˜veneerā€™ like you are stix2your fingers in your ears and squeezing your eyes shut and shouting ā€œAaah I canā€™t hear you LLALALLALALALAā€, and then you act all sanctimonious like you are better people than Trump supporters. You are not.

                  And no, people believing a bunch of hokum and lies was what bought on Brexit and BoJo. Not very different from the copium you are smoking.

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                    Thatā€™s an awful large wall of text to tell everyone you havenā€™t listened to anything thatā€™s gone on in many years. If you think Trump is about to somehow magically resolve this genocide that heā€™s been actively egging on from the sidelines, please learn to read.

                    I do know the truth about the US political establishment, I fucking live here, you goon. And the truth is that until the civil war starts, we are reduced to voting for the lesser evil. Anything else is causing more active harm to ourselves and our fellow humans for no gain.

                    So yes, I will vote for Biden, because Iā€™m not being presented a better option. Once the blood starts spilling on American soil that may end up a different story. But for right now? This both sides bullshit is actively killing people and making the entire world worse, both here and overseas.

                    I remember when Trump was in office, I remember what he said and did and what heā€™s promised will happen next time. Iā€™m not about to let that happen again. If my options are 40% evil or 99% evil Iā€™m picking the 40% every time, no question, from a purely utilitarian viewpoint.

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        heā€™s only giving you things you say with your friends inside of your living room, the only difference is heā€™s got the balls to say it in front of you all and donā€™t have to sugar coat it at all.

        Things like what, exactly? We must be hanging out in different living rooms.

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          If Trump was in my living room, Iā€™d spit in his face. Heā€™s so far removed from how I live my life, itā€™s hard for me to even acknowledge people like him exist.

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        Yah fun things to talk about like ā€œhey, isnā€™t it interesting how you have less medical rights now.ā€ Jfc