• mashbooq@infosec.pubOP
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    5 months ago

    Because Warren would have been better…? Your attempt at bad faith questions don’t even make sense. If Warren had been elected, she would have been to the left of Biden, who (according to whatever your source is) is the most left wing since FDR. So how much more so would Warren have been. I think all the dialectics are rotting your brain, comrade.

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      5 months ago

      But according to the comment I replied to, she wouldn’t be “better”, she would be the same. That’s my question, which I don’t get how that’s bad faith. If she’s “the most left wing since FDR”, but Biden is already that, in what way is that an argument for her? What point is the comment making? You’re not explaining anything.

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            I think I’m mostly lost on what dumbass thinks Biden is left of FDR.

            Edit: oh most left wing SINCE. I need more coffee. Seeing as we’ve had basically no actual left wing presidents, still not a difficult feat. lol

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            Warren being better than Biden and Biden (or Warren) being the most left-wing president since FDR are not mutually exclusive.

            Warren is left of Biden and, if you’re left-leaning, that is better AND the most left since FDR.

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        5 months ago

        She would be better and more to the left than Biden. And I consider myself a part of the left. Fred Hampton wasn’t killed because he was a leftist, he was killed because he was a big tent leftist.

        My point is the perfect candidate doesn’t exist and we should fight for the progress we can get with politicians that can win in the current deeply flawed system we are forced to operate in.

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          Fred Hampton was killed because he was a communist, not a “leftist”. His FBI file, the statements from the police, and the statements from officials involved all explicitly blame his communist sentiment and work with communist orgs for the police state’s…attention…on him. He didn’t advocate for a liberal national party. Do not insult him by misrepresenting him or his death.

          But okay. That phrase just doesn’t separate her from Biden when that’s what the tweet is about.

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            5 months ago

            Thank you for proving my point by partitioning communists from the left. Sometimes I feel like I’m arguing metal subgenres. I just want everyone who isn’t a fascist or an enabler to band together so we don’t get a repeat the last century.

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              5 months ago

              American liberals are right wing is the point. So Hampton is correctly separated from the American left.

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                5 months ago

                His rainbow coalition comprised of a lot of different groups with differing left wing viewpoints. I know Liz is still only left by American standards, but I still think she’s preferable to Biden which mainly what I’m trying to say.

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                  5 months ago

                  That’s fine. Perhaps we can be gracious to those who are further left than we are accustomed to conversing with, in the spirit of Chairbrother Fred? I also am working on that, I’d be honored if others would join me.