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Am I the asshole for letting my daughter keep her room?

Original Post: June 21, 2024

My (47m) daughter Stacy (15f) has one of the two rooms in my house with an ensuite bathroom. Itā€™s a largish room with a nice bay window, obviously very nice.Ā 

Iā€™ve recently become engaged to my girlfriend of 3 years, Alice (33f), and her landlord has recently hiked her rent, so weā€™re planning to have her move in with me. She has some kids. She has Two daughters (13F,10F), and two sons (11M, 9m). She is also pregnant, with our daughter due in about 5 months.

Iā€™ve made it absolutely clear to my daughter, as a condition of getting her approval on moving my girlfriend in, that she is allowed to keep her room, and she is also allowed to have a full lock on her door. For what itā€™s worth, I also got my sonā€™s (24m) blessing to give away his old room, although thatā€™s more of a moot point, as he lives with his own girlfriend now. My daughter plans to go to school locally, and I have told her in no uncertain terms that sheā€™s welcome to live at home for the rest of my life, and after that she can inherit the house. I bought the house with her mother and paid it off in large part with her motherā€™s life insurance 10 years ago, so it only seems fair. She says sheā€™s all right as long as she has her room and her bathroom and sheā€™s allowed to put a lock on her door. She has a toaster oven and a mini fridge in there, so I guess sheā€™s pretty well set up.

Stacy will be giving up a room that sheā€™s currently using as a studio/project space(she does art, videos and voice-overs etc) so even her larger room will become a bit more cramped, and sheā€™ll definitely need the extra space she has.Ā 

There will be a bedroom for Aliceā€™s girls, Stacyā€™s old project room, and Aliceā€™s boys will be getting my sonā€™s old room. Iā€™m going to be putting in a finished nursery /bedroom in the basement for our new daughter.

Alice thinks that this is unfair. She thinks it was wrong of me to make the decision without her, and she also thinks that she should move her two daughters into Stacyā€™s room, and that Stacy should have to move to the smaller room that theyā€™ll be getting. The two of them already share a smaller room than the one Iā€™m moving them into as it is, so they are getting an upgrade regardless. Alice thinks that itā€™s not fair for Stacy to have a bathroom all day herself and that there wonā€™t be enough bathrooms for everyone else. She also disapproves of Stacy being able to lock everyone out. There were other smaller things she didnā€™t like that I agreed to with Stacy, like the fact that she is to be paid for any babysitting, or the fact that my older car, her momā€™s old car, is hers when she gets her driverā€™s license.

Weā€™ll have our own bathroom in the master bedroom, and the house has three other bathrooms besides, one on each floor, one near what will be her girls room, one not far from what will be the boys room, and one little basically be directly next to the new finished room.

I told Alice that my deal with Stacy is non-negotiable; set in stone and that itā€™s literally a condition of her even moving in. Alice is upset that Stacy and I both have spaces completely dedicated to ourselves. I have my office, which I need because I work from home and have projects besides, and there arenā€™t a whole lot of other spaces to put people. I told her she can pretty much do what she wants in the living room, but that it is what it is and thereā€™s pretty much nothing to be done about it.Ā 

A bigger house is not an option unless Alice is going to start making a hell of a lot more money and buy her own bigger house. Itā€™s already a pretty big house, and housing is expensive. I told her that sheā€™s already getting a break by my only expecting her to contribute 15 or 20% to household bills. If we were doing it proportionately, it would be more like 25 to 30%. We keep separate finances, and weā€™ve agreed to a prenup.Ā 

Alice just seems upset that I wonā€™t change the setup even though thereā€™s no real way to change it, and sheā€™s accused me of treating Stacy like a ā€œspoiled little princessā€ and letting her be ā€œqueen of the houseā€.

Frankly, my daughter comes first, sheā€™s lived here all her life, and I already know itā€™s going to be a big adjustment having all these other kids move in. As much as I love Alice and as much as I want our relationship to work out, if itā€™s a matter of choosing between the two of them, then my relationship with Alice is a sacrifice Iā€™m willing to make. Iā€™ve told her that if she comes into this with wicked stepmother vibes, and thatā€™ll be the end of things. She thinks Iā€™m being unreasonable.Ā 

AITA?

UPDATE: June 22, 2024

I got a lot of eye-opening insight and advice from my post, so I feel itā€™s worth giving everyone an update, especially considering developments.Ā 

First, to address a few questions that seemed to keep coming up before I lost the ability to read each and every reply (although Iā€™m still trying)Ā 

My son (24m) is my child from a previous relationship before I met / married my late wife. He has his own provisions in my will, but heā€™s quite aware that the house goes to his sister.Ā 

My own sister is to become guardian of my daughter if anything should happen to me. I love my sister as dearly as I love anyone, and she and her niece love each other and get along great. I trust her completely if, God forbid, anything should happen.

Yes. The basement is an unusual place for a nursery, but I was just trying to make people fit where they could go. The move was supposed to be happening within a month, and Aliceā€™s older kids needed rooms now. Meanwhile the baby isnā€™t going to be born for about 5 months, so she could go into the room that isnā€™t made yet. I honestly figured we could keep a crib in our room for a bit, and after that itā€™s no big deal for a kid to have her room in a finished basement. Also honestly, I didnā€™t want to move my office. Itā€™s been where it is forever and I didnā€™t want to move it. I can admit that. Weā€™ve had the beginnings/groundwork of a finished basement since forever, but there was never any reason to really put a move on it. It was a big change to go from having more room than we need with just me and Stacy rattling around in the house to suddenly scrambling for space and to not having enough. It was the obvious spot where an additional bedroom could go, but not a spot where a bedroom is now.

Alice and I had talked about marriage and children more or less in the abstract on many occasions, and we both wanted to get married, at some point, if things continued to work out, and I wanted to have more children, although this pregnancy was quite unexpected.

It was Aliceā€™s pregnancy combined with the rent hike on her place that accelerated the timetable on things. For what itā€™s worth, the rent hike is real. Iā€™ve seen the paperwork. And I have literally no reason to suspect the baby is not mine.Ā 

But yes, the only reason why we got engaged so recently is because Alice got pregnant. The only reason why Alice and her kids would be moving in with me so suddenly is because she was likely to need to move somewhere, and Iā€™d obviously like to be responsible for / be near / raise my coming daughter. To me, it made sense for my daughter to live with me. I never wanted to be an absentee/part-Time parent or to not have time or share space with my child.Ā 

The circumstances all made sense, at least until now.Ā 

I was definitely wary of Alice and paying more attention to her, especially after the many many comments that I read. I came to Reddit to get a sanity check on whether or not I was being an asshole about my conditions with Stacy, not to try to actually make any kind of major life or relationship changes. But I didnā€™t want to turn a blind eye either.Ā 

It was Friday, and Stacy texted me, asking for her allowance. I was with Alice at the time, and I went ahead and let the subject come up.Ā 

I give Stacy $100 a week. Alice thinks that this is ā€œcrazyā€ and ā€œexcessiveā€. She thinks itā€™s improper, and sheā€™s brought it up as an example of how she thinks Iā€™m raising Stacy like a ā€œspoiled princessā€. She said as much again when I told her I was sending Stacy her allowance, but this time Alice also asked if her kids would get the same allowance after we get married. I told her that someday our new daughter would probably get an allowance just like Stacy does, but that there was no way I had any plans of shelling out an extra $400 a week for her other kids.Ā 

Alice got upset. She said that Stacy waste my money on shoes and makeup (she has previously criticized Stacy for wearing fancy sneakers, high heels, and makeup), and she said that I was showing favoritism and that that is a form of abuse. She complained about me letting Stacy buy things with my credit card and store my credit card on her phone when I donā€™t even let Alice do that. She said that whatever money was going to go to the kids should be split evenly amongst them.

When I shrugged and told her that that wasnā€™t gā€¦


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    5 months ago

    Stop getting pregnant before serious talks dumb dumbs! Keeping a child is a choice (unless in red state). All a child is going to do is make things worse just like it did here. Should have had an abortion and commit to a child AFTER proper discussions. I hate the whole ā€œoh Iā€™m just trying to take responsibilityā€ how about showing it by not bringing another human life into chaos.