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minus-squaretiredturtle@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up13arrow-down13·6 months agoThe war is a classic example of fascist infighting
minus-squarequeermunist she/her@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up18arrow-down11·edit-26 months agoFascists are nationalists. Fascists from different nations fighting each other isn’t really infighting, that’s just like, regular fighting. Not something we should be fueling at any rate. Heaven forbid anyone asks about a peace plan that isn’t total victory, though.
minus-squaretiredturtle@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up9arrow-down12·edit-26 months agoYeah it’s tough to find a compromise when Russia seems to go for the total victory or at least a settlement of gains and Ukraine hopes for a stalemate without border changes.
minus-squarequeermunist she/her@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up13arrow-down19·6 months agoUkraine hopes for total retreat from all claimed Ukrainian territory, not a mere stalemate. That’s hardly compromise.
minus-squaresunzu@kbin.runlinkfedilinkarrow-up8arrow-down12·6 months agoThat’s right and as long as US and western allies keep up with deliveries there is a chance for Ukraine to achieve its objectives. Ideally leading to Russian collapse. Before you get bent out of shape about it is in possible… Recent history does demonstrate that invading country that faces a determined opposition will generally have to go home with their dicks tucked. How long can Russia spin this shot at home esp as Ukraine is striking critical assets deep within Russia. And the west hasn’t even given Ukraine the best shit and permission to use it as needed.
minus-squarequeermunist she/her@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up8arrow-down2·6 months ago Ideally leading to Russian collapse. Cool so you want a nuclear war.
minus-squaredavel [he/him]@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up9arrow-down6·6 months agoOkay Brzezinski. Russia hardly faces a determined opposition: it faces a dwindling supply of forced conscripts.
minus-squaresunzu@kbin.runlinkfedilinkarrow-up5arrow-down9·6 months agoWell you got nothing to worry about then. Kyiv by winter?
minus-squaredavel [he/him]@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8arrow-down9·6 months agoI don’t think they even want Kyiv. Western Ukraine is rife of neo-Nazis, making it impossible to occupy long-term.
minus-squareMiaou@jlai.lulinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down1·6 months agoI thought they were liberating rather than occupying?
The war is a classic example of fascist infighting
Fascists are nationalists. Fascists from different nations fighting each other isn’t really infighting, that’s just like, regular fighting.
Not something we should be fueling at any rate. Heaven forbid anyone asks about a peace plan that isn’t total victory, though.
Yeah it’s tough to find a compromise when Russia seems to go for the total victory or at least a settlement of gains and Ukraine hopes for a stalemate without border changes.
Ukraine hopes for total retreat from all claimed Ukrainian territory, not a mere stalemate. That’s hardly compromise.
That’s right and as long as US and western allies keep up with deliveries there is a chance for Ukraine to achieve its objectives.
Ideally leading to Russian collapse.
Before you get bent out of shape about it is in possible…
Recent history does demonstrate that invading country that faces a determined opposition will generally have to go home with their dicks tucked.
How long can Russia spin this shot at home esp as Ukraine is striking critical assets deep within Russia.
And the west hasn’t even given Ukraine the best shit and permission to use it as needed.
Cool so you want a nuclear war.
Okay Brzezinski. Russia hardly faces a determined opposition: it faces a dwindling supply of forced conscripts.
Well you got nothing to worry about then. Kyiv by winter?
I don’t think they even want Kyiv. Western Ukraine is rife of neo-Nazis, making it impossible to occupy long-term.
I thought they were liberating rather than occupying?
Somebody is coping here haha