Self-proclaimed misogynist ‘brazen’ about refusing to pay tax on revenue from online businesses, court told

Andrew Tate and his brother, Tristan, have been accused of failing to pay tax on £21m of revenue from their online businesses.

Devon and Cornwall police are bringing a civil claim against the brothers and a third person referred to as J over unpaid tax, Westminster magistrates’ court heard on Monday. The force is seeking about £2.8m in seven frozen bank accounts.

Sarah Clarke KC for Devon and Cornwall police said: “Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate are serial tax and VAT evaders. They, in particular Andrew Tate, are brazen about it.”

It is claimed that they paid no tax in any country on £21m revenue from businesses online earned between 2014 and 2022. Clarke quoted from a video posted online by Andrew Tate, in which the self-proclaimed misogynist said: “When I lived in England I refused to pay tax.”

The court heard he said his approach was “ignore, ignore, ignore because in the end they go away”. The court also heard that the brothers had a “huge number of bank accounts” in the UK, seven of which have been frozen.

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    There’s video footage of Andrew Tate from his Hustler’s University online courses where he instructs his pupils to use cryptocurrency to avoid taxes, and also describes his methods for duping his webcam models with fake complicated tax terminology so he can essentially steal their wages. Throw the book at him

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      Like the rest of them, hes more than happy to tax other peoples earnings, for using his things. He loves it. In fact, its his favourite part.

      So, I hope no one reading this ever confuses business owners and landbastards hatred of taxes with a moral position.

      They just don’t think it should apply to them.

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    It’s so crazy how many young guys choose this clown as their role model…

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      They have very few good role models to choose from. That’s part of the problem.

      There aren’t enough role models teaching them that you can be a man without being toxic to women.

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        This is true, but I can find a better role model on the bottom of my shoe. I wish people weren’t so susceptible to his type of bullshit.

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        There’s an unlimited supply of great role models on the internet. It just takes a few minutes of effort to find them, because algorithmic feeds that are optimized for outrage/engagement to serve more ads are slightly easier to consume.

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          If they have to look for them, they will find the ones they don’t have to look for first. Expecting them to seek out a healthy role model when the Andrew Tates of the world prey on them is a foolish expectation.

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        There aren’t enough role models teaching them that you can be a man without being toxic to women.

        Is this really the problem, or is the problem that the sort of people with role models like Tate are the sort of people who wouldn’t gravitate towards non-toxic role models in the first place?

        Because if it’s actually true that there are very few good male role models to choose from, I’m not entirely sure what that tells us about men, exactly.

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          It’s more a factor of the format. There are few if any good female role models for the same type of spaces. The terminally online and angry at life teens aren’t interacting with the spaces where good role models are.

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            And the algorithms are actively pushing them away from the good role models toward the controversial videos.

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            There are few if any good female role models for the same type of spaces.

            This is such an odd take that I’m really not sure what type of spaces you’re referring to exactly

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              Spaces of anger at life. Of “edginess” bordering into the “isms” (racism, antisemitism, sexism etc) as proof of how much you don’t give a fuck. That exists for many (usually depressed) teens. These spaces exist for both young men and women and lead into listening to the same type of shit takes. These spaces basically algorithmically get “edgier” and edgier until they are actually racist, sexist, etc. Any good role model who chances upon this and tries to engage is drowned out derided and shunned (either for not understanding “we’re just being edgy, man” to “heres some ‘articles’ about phrenology and the replacement theory that looks real emough to most people” until the good person leaves.

              The female equivalent to Tate would be something like a “tradwife” vlogger. They may not be as infamous but there’s a lot of them and they aren’t better.

              A woman watching tradwife vlogs and a man watching Tate are both upset about various things in society. Many of which are reasonable, the cost of living, being able to find a partner, why the government doesn’t work for them, whether there is any meaning in their life basically. They only get the perspective of get rich, fuck women or find a rich man and make babies/take care of the house.

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      He had a lifestyle where he was constantly sleeping with different women, saying whatever garbage he wanted, very wealthy, and made his money running cons instead of real work.

      I get it, I don’t approve, but I get why some angry 17 year old would want that. By the time you hit 17 or so you already know the game is rigged, the trick is to get to 30 where you are too apathetic to care.

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      I mean, he comes across as an incredibly pathetic sad loser that has managed to gather some money and fame. His fans probably relate to the former and hope watching his videos and taking after him will lead to the latter. 🤷‍♂️

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      He’s not a good person but some of the things he says are things that almost every young man resonates with. Feeling worthless, being lonely, wanting something to strive for, having no purpose, the feeling that life is unfair to you but you can’t complain, or social stuff is hard.

      It’s not the solutions he proposed that made him popular, but the problems he raised.

      Now let’s be clear here, he’s a slimy criminal with a ton of different schemes running concurrently, but at face value we still haven’t found the time to address the problems he raised. The void he leaves is exploitable unless we get someone righteous who takes his place to inspire young men. And no, I don’t think there’s role models right now that can take his place, at least not with that reach or that charisma.

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      The dumb sex offender who went to jail because he didn’t hide his shitty Romanian pizza when he replied to a Greta Thunberg burn.

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      Listen to the others and preserve your innocence. He’s like a Pandora box that, once opened, will constantly remind you of its presence. Telling social media sites “stop showing me this type of content” does nothing except make him stop showing up in your feeds for a short time. But he comes back.

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      A weakling who I want to kill woth a Daneaxe, a prime example of a debauched profligate with neither morals nor forethought who was able to amass wealth and influence by staying under the radar to a degree. But once he was able to gain the fame that his kind crave due to their misinterpretation of fame equaling power he got himself into international legal troubles.

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    “massive piece of shit human turns out to be a massive piece of shit human.”

    Yeah no shit.

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    Looks like they totally do just go away there, bud. You’re such a fucken genius. And dudes line up to give this guy top.

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    I’m not a fan of Tate and don’t like him at all but I have never once seen actual evidence of the claims. Which I find odd.

    If he truly did all these horrifying things, he should be sent to prison for good. However, I haven’t seen a single evidence of any claims. Perhaps it’s me not looking the right way.

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      Perhaps it’s me not looking the right way.

      Well…are you an officer, detective, or prosecutor working on a case against him? Lol

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      There isn’t any. For the most part he’s just mobbed on from people seeing 10 second clips of him bragging or saying what a woman should do.

      Their favorite influencer said something bad about them and now that’s their opinion too. Ya know like how most of everybody’s hate mobs are developed these days.