I’ve found the max range on the Hyundai Kona EV’s is fairly accurate. It can vary quite a bit with stuff like AC/heat but generally in reasonable weather it gets close to what was advertised.
The MPGe Tesla advertised also is. Then they use that to correspond to % remaining battery.
All EVs get wildly different range depending on outdoor temps (I get 30% lower range in winter) and their hysteresis is way higher than an ICE car. But, their range numbers are accurate for when they are measured under ideal circumstances.
I regularly do better than rated range. Others have a heavy foot and do worse. Kinda par for the course.
Agreed. I’ve been driving a 2017 model s for 4 years now. When I first got it, I drove aggressively and was surprised at how low the range was compared to advertised rates, often 20% lower, 60-70miles per charge. Once I realized that I was the problem and stopped using the accelerator like an on/off switch, I started getting higher than advertised mileage on every charge (and stopped eating through tires).
I was the EV equivalent to the jack-a-lacks that drive big trucks and coal-roll. Ever see one of those assholes complain about their mpg being under advertised rates?
EVs are moving from early adopters to the beginning stage of mass adoption, so there are going to be a lot of complaints from people
shifting to a new product, just like all the bitching you hear when someone switch from Apple to android or vice-versa. There is a need to fill out the charging network (for those that travel a lot or can’t charge at home), and there is a learning curve to find the sweet spot in how to operate them. Those are things people are going to complain about, probably forever.
Fortunately, the benefits far outweigh the negatives. I don’t personally know anyone that has swapped from an ICE to a Tesla (I don’t have experience with any other EVs) that isn’t ecstatic at the minimal maintenance, the ability to charge at home, the built in tech that makes it easy to use, the level of comfort… etc.
I have a charger at the house, so I’ve only used a supercharger once in 4 years… and that was more of a range anxiety thing. Turns out I made the return trip home without stopping to charge and made it fine. I don’t have to budget time to stop on my way to work. I save money not buying shit at the convenience store while I fill up. I don’t have to deal with exorbitant and wildly fluctuating gas prices. My electric bill at home fluctuates more with outside temperature than when I started charging at home.
If you don’t regularly drive more than 300 miles in a day, an EV is a no-brainer. If you routinely drive 250-300 miles in a day, you should probably figure out the habitual changes you’ll have to make before you buy an EV.
If you read the article you’d know that this is actually not the case and Tesla is the one exaggerating range to this degree.
“Jonathan Elfalan, vehicle testing director for the automotive website Edmunds.com, reached a similar conclusion to Pannone after an extensive examination of vehicles from Tesla and other major automakers, including Ford, General Motors, Hyundai and Porsche. All five Tesla models tested by Edmunds failed to achieve their advertised range, the website reported in February 2021. All but one of 10 other models from other manufacturers exceeded their advertised range.”
One thing is to exaggerate the range in your advertisement material, which every auto manufacture does—especially since you need to meet veeery specific criteria to get the advertised mpg.
Another though is to rig your software to show misleading range to the people actually driving the fucking car, that’s either stupid or very shady.
Every auto manufacture exaggerates range, whether it’s battery or MPG.
I’ve found the max range on the Hyundai Kona EV’s is fairly accurate. It can vary quite a bit with stuff like AC/heat but generally in reasonable weather it gets close to what was advertised.
I have to say the same for the Kia EV6. After a fill charge, driving a few miles on the road yields a very accurate estimate.
Isn’t MPG (in the US) estimated by the EPA?
The MPGe Tesla advertised also is. Then they use that to correspond to % remaining battery.
All EVs get wildly different range depending on outdoor temps (I get 30% lower range in winter) and their hysteresis is way higher than an ICE car. But, their range numbers are accurate for when they are measured under ideal circumstances.
I regularly do better than rated range. Others have a heavy foot and do worse. Kinda par for the course.
Agreed. I’ve been driving a 2017 model s for 4 years now. When I first got it, I drove aggressively and was surprised at how low the range was compared to advertised rates, often 20% lower, 60-70miles per charge. Once I realized that I was the problem and stopped using the accelerator like an on/off switch, I started getting higher than advertised mileage on every charge (and stopped eating through tires).
I was the EV equivalent to the jack-a-lacks that drive big trucks and coal-roll. Ever see one of those assholes complain about their mpg being under advertised rates?
EVs are moving from early adopters to the beginning stage of mass adoption, so there are going to be a lot of complaints from people shifting to a new product, just like all the bitching you hear when someone switch from Apple to android or vice-versa. There is a need to fill out the charging network (for those that travel a lot or can’t charge at home), and there is a learning curve to find the sweet spot in how to operate them. Those are things people are going to complain about, probably forever.
Fortunately, the benefits far outweigh the negatives. I don’t personally know anyone that has swapped from an ICE to a Tesla (I don’t have experience with any other EVs) that isn’t ecstatic at the minimal maintenance, the ability to charge at home, the built in tech that makes it easy to use, the level of comfort… etc.
I have a charger at the house, so I’ve only used a supercharger once in 4 years… and that was more of a range anxiety thing. Turns out I made the return trip home without stopping to charge and made it fine. I don’t have to budget time to stop on my way to work. I save money not buying shit at the convenience store while I fill up. I don’t have to deal with exorbitant and wildly fluctuating gas prices. My electric bill at home fluctuates more with outside temperature than when I started charging at home.
If you don’t regularly drive more than 300 miles in a day, an EV is a no-brainer. If you routinely drive 250-300 miles in a day, you should probably figure out the habitual changes you’ll have to make before you buy an EV.
If you read the article you’d know that this is actually not the case and Tesla is the one exaggerating range to this degree.
“Jonathan Elfalan, vehicle testing director for the automotive website Edmunds.com, reached a similar conclusion to Pannone after an extensive examination of vehicles from Tesla and other major automakers, including Ford, General Motors, Hyundai and Porsche. All five Tesla models tested by Edmunds failed to achieve their advertised range, the website reported in February 2021. All but one of 10 other models from other manufacturers exceeded their advertised range.”
One thing is to exaggerate the range in your advertisement material, which every auto manufacture does—especially since you need to meet veeery specific criteria to get the advertised mpg.
Another though is to rig your software to show misleading range to the people actually driving the fucking car, that’s either stupid or very shady.