China is honestly light years ahead of the US. I live in one of the most expensive cities in the US and am here on vacation for a month traveling through China and it is insane how far ahead of us they are. From the high speed rail system that I have been using to go from city to city, the absolute cleanliness everywhere, no crime, no worry about getting pick pocketed/mugged, nice friendly people, no homelessness, no tent cities, affordable/cheap prices for food and basic necessities. Every little town I pass I the high speed line had massive construction going on from high density apartments to infrastructure. Honestly the only complaints I have is that the entire country is hot as balls right now and the food situation is a bit rough as a person who’s both vegan and a somewhat picky eater, they only seem to have mainly Chinese food everywhere and as good as it is I need some variety in my diet and it is hard finding all vegan places as well.

I honestly I have now come to realize that the reason we are so strongly propagandized against China in the US is that it would break the average Americans brain if you saw how well they are living here compared to the absolute under-devoloped shit we put up with in the US.

Ask me any questions you have and I can also post pics if interested!

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        Do you know how many of those people went to America?

        In my experience everybody who goes to UK/Canada/USA for a few years have their illusions shattered really hard as well, even before COVID and Trump

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      there is a dunning kruger area of politically illiterate petit bourgeoisie and wannabes (liberals) who dislike leftism for a variety of reasons, many of them actually personal failings (shitty teacher/school admin, can’t break into the big bourgeoisie, incel because ugly/poor/misogynist, friends doing better than they are <- this is a big one) but in their minds easily attributed to leftist politics

      in all fairness the government does do a lot of dumb shit a lot of the time for really shitty reasons but in these people’s minds they’re just built different and would have been fine or would be doing even better if china had completely capitulated and ended up like CIS or idk, india

      they’re honestly not common at all (thank god) but i interact with them on a daily basis due to job/social circle and it takes everything i have to just stay hinged in conversations so i am taking this opportunity to vent, sorry

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        politically illiterate (liberals) who dislike leftism for a variety of reasons, many of them actually personal failings (shitty teacher/school admin, can’t break into the big bourgeoisie, incel because ugly/poor/misogynist, friends doing better than they are <- this is a big one) but in their minds easily attributed to leftist politics

        To be fair you could say the exact same thing for a sizeable amount of “anti capitalist” people in the West. Politically illiterate liberals who mix up criticism of capitalism with personal failings.

        in these people’s minds they’re just built different and would have been fine or would be doing even better if china had completely capitulated and ended up like CIS or idk, india

        Again lol, you see this mindset in a minority of Westen leftists on the internet as well. “If my country was just communist instead of capitalist I’d be living my best life” type of mindset. I guess the idea of the grass being greener on the other side is just part of the human experience if life sucks for someone at the moment.

        This is not intended as a defence of capitalism, just to be clear before someone misreads my comment.

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        so i am taking this opportunity to vent, sorry

        No it’s fine I like reading about how people in China think and act since because the only local “knowledge” regarding that is “100% of Chinese are brainwashed and propagandized 100% of the time and they’re basically a totalitarian hivemind too scared of the government to even think for themselves”.