I can accept lsrsel destroying infrastructure that is used to sustain Hamas holdouts at this point in the war, as long as Israel is bringing in water and opening new infrastructure, outside the influence and control of Hamas. That seems uncontroversial. I don’t know if that’s what happened here.
I join Canada and Israel and calling for a full investigation and if it is found to be true, then I join in calling for the perpetrators to be hanged. That also seems uncontroversial.
Three or four people have posted counterpoints to me now, and various links, and of course the video itself. All of these sources cite the video.
The video shows some guys standing around some pipes and then an exterior shot of an explosion. That’s accompanied by some text and audio. It’s posted on TikTok. As far as I can tell, the claims haven’t been independently verified, that is, confirmed by credible, factual reporting extrinsic to the video.
And here we are once again with a most sensational claim being shared as if it was truth despite the fact that the only two or three credible sources that even bothered to run a story about the video make clear that it hasn’t been independently verified. There’s one credible story from Israel about the IDF acknowledging the video and saying it will investigate. There’s one credible story out of Canada from some low-level diplomat saying that they saw the video and calling for independent investigation. That also seems uncontroversial.
The video shows some guys standing around some pipes and then an exterior shot of an explosion. That’s accompanied by some text and audio. It’s posted on TikTok. As far as I can tell, the claims haven’t been independently verified, that is, confirmed by credible, factual reporting extrinsic to the video.
Ok but there are two stories you say are credible just below this, and they establish clear facts.
So two questions:
Do you believe this was posted by an IDF soldier, as reported by the Times of Israel?
Do you believe the video shows the Canada Well plant, as stated by both the original poster and a representative of the Canadian government?
If the answer to both of these is yes, what remaining reason is there to doubt the video? You say the “claims” haven’t been verified but no claim is needed. It is on video. Do you mean the claim that the facility was destroyed, and that the external shot was not of something else being destroyed?
I am not being obtuse here, I just really don’t understand what you mean
I can accept lsrsel destroying infrastructure that is used to sustain Hamas holdouts at this point in the war, as long as Israel is bringing in water and opening new infrastructure, outside the influence and control of Hamas. That seems uncontroversial. I don’t know if that’s what happened here.
I join Canada and Israel and calling for a full investigation and if it is found to be true, then I join in calling for the perpetrators to be hanged. That also seems uncontroversial.
Three or four people have posted counterpoints to me now, and various links, and of course the video itself. All of these sources cite the video.
The video shows some guys standing around some pipes and then an exterior shot of an explosion. That’s accompanied by some text and audio. It’s posted on TikTok. As far as I can tell, the claims haven’t been independently verified, that is, confirmed by credible, factual reporting extrinsic to the video.
And here we are once again with a most sensational claim being shared as if it was truth despite the fact that the only two or three credible sources that even bothered to run a story about the video make clear that it hasn’t been independently verified. There’s one credible story from Israel about the IDF acknowledging the video and saying it will investigate. There’s one credible story out of Canada from some low-level diplomat saying that they saw the video and calling for independent investigation. That also seems uncontroversial.
Ok but there are two stories you say are credible just below this, and they establish clear facts.
So two questions:
Do you believe this was posted by an IDF soldier, as reported by the Times of Israel?
Do you believe the video shows the Canada Well plant, as stated by both the original poster and a representative of the Canadian government?
If the answer to both of these is yes, what remaining reason is there to doubt the video? You say the “claims” haven’t been verified but no claim is needed. It is on video. Do you mean the claim that the facility was destroyed, and that the external shot was not of something else being destroyed?
I am not being obtuse here, I just really don’t understand what you mean