• cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    68
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    4 months ago

    Don’t dehumanize him. He’s a human just like you and me, and we must stay vigilant to our friends and our selves to not become like Andrew Tate or any other people who have terrible unchecked thoughts and actions.

      • cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        I do not doubt or counter the terrible things he has done and continues to do.

        He is a despicable person.

      • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        Why are you calling a sexist pig by pronouns that make him sound like a nonbinary QT?

        • EABOD25@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          4 months ago

          Because, and this might be my own perceptions, terms like “they” or “them” for non-binary is for acknowledging humans. To me, that’s the least way I can acknowledge their existence. As a fellow human being (if I knew their name, that would probably be easier). But you use words like “it” for insects, or worms, or spiders, or a pile of trash, or pre or post morning coffee dump. Let me tell you, they’re both surprisingly consistent piles of shit

          • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            4 months ago

            Well I know plenty of enbies and/or objectkin who use it/its pronouns and I don’t agree with you using their pronouns to insult a conservative. As a gay otherkin enby who’s attracted to gay otherkin enbies, the pronoun set it/its applied to a sapient being turns on the part of my brain that looks for attractive people. So I feel as though you’re trying to convince me that Tate is a viable sexual partner. Or at least, of a gender identity I could potentially be attracted to. While using he/him others him as a privileged male, and makes it easier to view him as an asshole leveraging social inequality for personal gain.

            • EABOD25@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              4 months ago

              I don’t mean any offense, but those words were around before the inception of non-binary lifestyles. You don’t get to claim them as exclusive use. I will continue referring to Tate as it.

              • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                4 months ago

                That’s ridiculous. They only started dropping the H from “hit” to create the word “it” during the middle ages. But nonbinary people have been around for 300,000 years. That means enbies are over 300 times as old as it/its pronouns. Why are you telling lies?

                • EABOD25@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  4 months ago

                  My point is you don’t have exclusive right to words and their use. You assumed I was using as an offensive comparison tool when I already expressed I wasn’t. Again, I don’t mean any offense, but for you to support non-binary lifestyles, you seem to think very binary

                  • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    4 months ago

                    The reason it/its pronouns sound nonbinary is that they are. You’re taking away Tate’s he/him pronouns because you want to take away his masculinity. You’re saying he has no more gender than a photocopying machine. Trump is a sexist, and you’re calling him sexless as an act of revenge. Unfortunately it doesn’t work. It’s about as effective as calling Donald Trump the N word. All you’re doing is saying that A: you think less of genderless things than male things, and B: you think someone’s right to their gender can be taken away if they’re evil enough. Neither of those is an empowering message for Tate’s victims to hear. Your lie about how long enbies have been around was also not empowering.