I actually liked TLJ as well. Like others said, I liked these Force Connection scenes with Rey and Kylo, I liked how it dispatched Snoke, dismissing the idea of yet another Star Wars conflict being controlled by an evil old wizard and instead gives sets the way for a new story by giving Kylo Ren the reigns of the new empire (which was thrown in the trash by JJ in ep 9, which is the gravest sin for me of that film), and gives a plausible take on the seduction to the dark side and to the light side. I know these ideas were poorly implemented e.g. the proposition Kylo makes to Rey “Hey, look, I’ve killed the evil emperor! Join me and we can take this whole thing over. Let’s start by killing all your friends!”. What a great offer, Kylo. But still I liked that this was something new and more than just a rehash.
What I also really loved is that not every character has to be related to the Skywalkers or another character of the other trilogies, again something JJ threw in the trash by ep 9. Why does Rey have to of some ancient magical lineage? I liked the idea that the force was running through people everywhere, even through slave kids on the casino planet. Everybody can be a hero, even if your parents or ancestors weren’t. Wait, what’s that, JJ? Everything was Palpatine all along? Never mind then.
To be fair to John Jonah, he had to work around the director of TLJ’s narcissistic take on the 2nd episode of a trilogy, i.e. not giving a shit how the next director (whoever it was going to be at that time) could possibly come up with a good conclusion to two extremely disjointed prior movies.
I mean it’s neither director’s fault, to be honest, it’s Lucasfilm’s, marketing this as “The next SW trilogy!!”, not just “three more movies from that universe you guys seem to enjoy so much”.
Also he was too busy running a newspaper at the same time.
“Maybe we should have planned the trilogy” - JJ after RoS
Disney allocated a billion dollars to a trilogy of movies and didn’t even ask for outlines of scripts first. I know JJ is “mystery box guy” and all but the amount of hubris to think they could just wing it on the strength of the IP is staggering.
I also hate the whole “force users only come from certain bloodlines” thing. It makes it too comic-book-y or superhero-y. To be fair, some of that shit was present in the EU before Disney went and threw it all in the trash, but there was also a lot of “everyone can use the Force, you just need to open your mind”
I actually liked TLJ as well. Like others said, I liked these Force Connection scenes with Rey and Kylo, I liked how it dispatched Snoke, dismissing the idea of yet another Star Wars conflict being controlled by an evil old wizard and instead gives sets the way for a new story by giving Kylo Ren the reigns of the new empire (which was thrown in the trash by JJ in ep 9, which is the gravest sin for me of that film), and gives a plausible take on the seduction to the dark side and to the light side. I know these ideas were poorly implemented e.g. the proposition Kylo makes to Rey “Hey, look, I’ve killed the evil emperor! Join me and we can take this whole thing over. Let’s start by killing all your friends!”. What a great offer, Kylo. But still I liked that this was something new and more than just a rehash.
What I also really loved is that not every character has to be related to the Skywalkers or another character of the other trilogies, again something JJ threw in the trash by ep 9. Why does Rey have to of some ancient magical lineage? I liked the idea that the force was running through people everywhere, even through slave kids on the casino planet. Everybody can be a hero, even if your parents or ancestors weren’t. Wait, what’s that, JJ? Everything was Palpatine all along? Never mind then.
To be fair to John Jonah, he had to work around the director of TLJ’s narcissistic take on the 2nd episode of a trilogy, i.e. not giving a shit how the next director (whoever it was going to be at that time) could possibly come up with a good conclusion to two extremely disjointed prior movies. I mean it’s neither director’s fault, to be honest, it’s Lucasfilm’s, marketing this as “The next SW trilogy!!”, not just “three more movies from that universe you guys seem to enjoy so much”. Also he was too busy running a newspaper at the same time.
“Maybe we should have planned the trilogy” - JJ after RoS
Disney allocated a billion dollars to a trilogy of movies and didn’t even ask for outlines of scripts first. I know JJ is “mystery box guy” and all but the amount of hubris to think they could just wing it on the strength of the IP is staggering.
Hey, that’s not fair. They weren’t winging it.
They were doing the original trilogy again, but worse.
Get me pictures of spiderman.
I also hate the whole “force users only come from certain bloodlines” thing. It makes it too comic-book-y or superhero-y. To be fair, some of that shit was present in the EU before Disney went and threw it all in the trash, but there was also a lot of “everyone can use the Force, you just need to open your mind”