• TheDoctor [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    Someone literally made this argument to me yesterday. I asked how continuing to arm Israel helped stop the genocide of Palestinians and they started talking about American national interests and how if we don’t arm Israel someone else will. No mention of Palestine in their answer whatsoever. Shit was just gross.

    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      I’ve definitely run into that argument before.

      It assumes an inherent strategic value to Israel that applies universally and misses how Israel is uniquely beneficial to US interests.

      It’s not like China needs Israel, with the belt-and-road it is opening relations with literally the entire middle east and not just the white settler colony. Russia already has close allies in the region that would oppose allying with Israel. The EU could try to replace the US as the main backer, and it has a material interest in doing so, but they just don’t have the military capacity to pull it off.

    • sweatersocialist [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      3 months ago

      i hate those sorts of interactions because the other person quite literally said nothing yet they walk away feeling like they “won” or like they “had the correct take”, i can 100% guarantee it